so 'show' him how much 450GB of data is ...

measure the thickness of a 1.44mb floppy diskette, and then figure out how
many floppies it would take to hold 450GB ( (450 x 1024)/ 1.44 ) and
multiply by that thickness ...

I did that once probably around 2001, and with much less data to back up,
and came up with a stack of floppies taller than the Westin Peachtree Plaza
Hotel in Atlanta ( 70 stories tall )

Or maybe then do the same with the thickness of a CD-ROM ... you get the
idea ...

I've found that executives prefer a 5 second visual to a 30 second
description with words and numbers

On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:43 PM, wjh <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yeah, I think he believes it is just a matter of having a server in cold
> storage.  And I don't think he knows we are talking about 450 gigs of data.
>
> Bill
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> Jay Dale wrote:
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>  That’s the rub…J
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> *From:* Clayton Doige 
> [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>]
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:18 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: mail server DR ?
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> ask him how much it will cost to be down for more than 45 miutes ;-)
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> 2009/10/13 Jay Dale <[email protected]>
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> Too expensive for what he’s looking for.
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> Jay
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> *From:* Clayton Doige [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:11 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: mail server DR ?
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> Double Take - will have you up in running in 5 minutes
>
> 2009/10/13 Davies,Matt <[email protected]>
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> Maybe I'm missing the point here, but 45 minute downtime can be achieved,
> but how many minutes/hours of data are you prepared to lose ? Given that
> money is a problem so some form of asyn replication is used.
>
> Matt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wjh [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 13 October 2009 14:38
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: mail server DR ?
>
> Hi all,
>
> So the VP of one of our clients wants to be able to guarantee a 45
> minute window of downtime if there is a critical failure of their mail
> server.  They are using exchange 2003 enterprise in standalone on a HP
> DL360 with a StorageWorks connected by scsi.  The mdbdata folder is
> 450GB.  This is for less than 200 users.  They currently have no
> retention policy and no limit on mailbox sizes.  They have 100 users
> with blackberries on a BES 5.0 server.  Very important that BBs stay
> workable.
>
> Backup Exec does incremental to disk and fulls to tape(LTO4) for offsite
> storage.  They have a  metro Ethernet connection providing a 100 meg
> connection to the internet at a data center.
>
> What would you consider a reasonable solution for DR within 45 minutes?
> They supposedly had no money for projects/capital expenditures remaining
> this year, but then he asked for this.
>
> Thanks for any thoughts/advice.
>
> Bill
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