Crank the size up and see if different: ping -l 50000

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 1:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Network Q

Just one more comment...

I think this has something to do with MTU/packet size.  Pings being very
small, always went through without issue.  Non-ping packets, have
extreme
difficulty.  The link between Network A and B is a VPN, and I'm
wondering
if this has something to do with MTU path or whatnot being different on
ISA
versus what is seen on the VPN connection itself.  

Which might explain why changing ServerXYZ to have a static route for
192.168.111.0/24 via the 10.0.0.254 gateway, and bypassing ISA
(10.0.0.1),
fixed the issue?

I'm still a bit fuzzy, but that's what I'm sorta thinking.... ??

J



Original Message:
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From: [email protected] [email protected]
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:05:02 -0500
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Network Q


I know there's a reason for this, I'm just not sure and was hoping
someone
here would.

I have two networks.
Network A - 10.0.0.0/24
Network B - 192.168.111.0/24

There is a gateway at 10.0.0.254 that is used for a specific connection
to
the gateway at 192.168.111.1 and the 192.168.111.0/24 network in
general. 
Network A also has another gateway that is used for EVERYTHING else
(main
internet), that gateway is 10.0.0.1.

Here's what had me confused...

>From a PC-A (192.168.111.200) in Network B, I could ping Server XYZ
(10.0.0.8)in Network A successfully.   However, trying to do anything
other
thing pinging led to very intermittent results (what triggered this was
trying to access the Exchange 2007 mail server on ServerXYZ from PC-A,
the
Outlook profile wouldn't resolve the username).

For example...
* I could only intermittently (1 try out of 8 or so) telnet over port 25
into Server XYZ.
* Opening up SMB shares (\\ServerXYZ) would take a really long time
* Trace routing to ServerXYZ from PC-A mostly resulted in 3 hops.  And
about 20% of the time resulted in 4 hops (the extra hop ended up being
the
10.0.0.1 gateway).

The strange/different traceroutes had me confused.  I did a tracert from
ServerXYZ to PC-A and the first hop was 10.0.0.1.  The 10.0.0.1 router
(Forefront server) HAS a route to 192.168.111.0/24 via 10.0.0.254.

I fixed all these issues by adding a static and persistent route on
ServerXYZ to 192.168.111.0/24 via 10.0.0.254.

Since doing so... From PC-A, I no longer have issues with Outlook
client,
or telnetting over port 25, or accessing SMB shares on ServerXYZ.

Yet, the entire time before making the routing change, I *WAS* able to
PING
ServerXYZ (by IP and DNS) from PC-A.

I am looking for input as to what was really going on here, heh. (I
think
it has something to do with pinging being different in the way it can be
resolved versus other network protocols?)

Thanks!




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