I'm a big fan of keeping internal corporate communications inside the
corporation, and monitoring the rest - that's what email archiving is
for. If we were to use federation, I think I'd want something like
that for IM as well, so that's nice stuff to know.

Thanks.

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 16:10, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote:
> Public IM federation with AOL and MSN now no longer requires a per
> user license.  Yahoo still does.  Text Archiving can be built into it.
>  It has a subset of Live Meeting features as well.
>
> note:  I am in the midle of migrating from LCS2005 to OCS2007r2.  LCS
> was merely chat based, OCS is multi-media based.
>
> Further notes:  If you integrate OCS with your telecom system (i.e.
> it's on the list) you can even do remote phone calls through your
> communicator client (no vpn needed).  I can't wait to test the OCS
> version.  LCS 'worked' internally with some client issues but
> Microsoft told us that would happen before we tested it anyway.
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:
>> OK. That's quite interesting. Adding that to the list of things to consider.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 15:03, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> You know, we don't use the web client. I believe it supports desktop 
>>> sharing, but not videoconferencing.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, you can easily federate with the public MSN Messenger 
>>> servers and your folks can use that to join your conferences. There are 
>>> also public federation points for AOL and Yahoo.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5:27 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: A new challenge for me...
>>>
>>> Forgot to ask...
>>>
>>> Does the web client do videoconferencing?
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 13:57, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> No. OCS is heavily AD dependent. The Edge server just protects the inside 
>>>> from the outside, similar to the edge server concept in Exchange.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 4:56 PM
>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>> Subject: Re: A new challenge for me...
>>>>
>>>> That makes me feel better.
>>>>
>>>> Is this amenable to setting up a standalone environment in the DMZ, so I 
>>>> don't have to tie it up with AD?
>>>>
>>>> I'm currently googling like mad, while having this conversation with y'all.
>>>>
>>>> Kurt
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 13:51, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> No. it's a different kind of edge server.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 4:49 PM
>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>> Subject: Re: A new challenge for me...
>>>>>
>>>>> New territory here. From what I've read, an Edge server normally refers 
>>>>> to an Exchange environment. Is what's being proposed here an extension of 
>>>>> my Exchange 2003 environment?
>>>>>
>>>>> Kurt
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 13:30, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Yes.  Setup OCS2007r2.  Then setup an Edge server.  The Edge server
>>>>>> will do Audio/Video conferencing.  Microsoft strongly suggests you
>>>>>> haev an ISA server in front but you can do it without an ISA server.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Unknown. I have zero experience or knowledge of it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Will it work in a DMZ? The reason I ask is that for the folks out
>>>>>>> of the country, the CEO is likely to want to videoconference with
>>>>>>> them while they are at their homes - that is, the CEO would be in
>>>>>>> the office, the others at their homes off-hours, at least some times.
>>>>>>> Thus, they won't have a VPN connection - we have a SonicWall SSL
>>>>>>> VPN unit here, which is not really amenable to forwarding a
>>>>>>> chat/video session..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kurt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 13:02, Don Guyer <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Will Office Communication Server take care of that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don Guyer
>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox &
>>>>>>>> Roach/Trident Group
>>>>>>>> 431 W. Lancaster Avenue
>>>>>>>> Devon, PA 19333
>>>>>>>> Direct: (610) 993-3299
>>>>>>>> Fax: (610) 650-5306
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:58 PM
>>>>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>>>>> Subject: A new challenge for me...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Our new CEO want her direct reports to use Live Messenger accounts
>>>>>>>> for IM/chat, and a couple of them (out of the country) to have web
>>>>>>>> cam conferencing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This, of course, means poking holes in the firewall and installing
>>>>>>>> the client, both of which I'm not happy about. Does anyone have
>>>>>>>> some arguments as to why this isn't a good idea?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Along with that, does anyone have thoughts on something I could
>>>>>>>> install (probably in a DMZ) to provide this service?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Open Source is definitely not out of the question, as far as I'm
>>>>>>>> concerned, but commercial is fine too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kurt
>>>>>>>>
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