You beat me to it!  Yes, ours is R2 as well-thanks Tim.

From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 6:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows KMS licensing

Ah HA!! R2 is the magic answer here then, thanks!

From: Tim Evans [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 6:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows KMS licensing

The KMS for Vista/WS08 didn't count VM's towards the total count. The one with 
Win7/WS08R2 does count them.

From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows KMS licensing

Huh?  Hadn't heard that, but I also didn't watch the vid.  We also have VMs 
that are using KMS licensing and seem to need to activate just like any other 
install.

Maybe they are referring to the fact that depending on your installed server 
OS, VMs don't necessarily take a license?  For example, WS08 Ent. Gets 4 server 
VMs to run on it and you only pay for the one server license.

From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 2:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows KMS licensing

Thanks Bonnie, that (and the video link sent by Andrew) are the missing links I 
needed. I do show 2008 R2 KMS B as an available license. I don't plan on 
standing up 5 physical 2008 servers very quickly, so it's MAK'ing I go...

It's a bummer that VM's won't count toward the activation limit, which makes me 
wonder if you are a mostly VM shop you're stuck with MAK's.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764



From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows KMS licensing

Yeah, but it also depends on your Key level.  With our KMS B key for WS08 R2 
(WS08 is the same), it only require 5 machines to check in before they start 
licensing.  But, the same server won't activate Vista/W7 until that count hits 
25.

Basically unless you stand up 5+ servers quickly, you have to license them with 
your MAK key first and then change it back later using the "default" key.  My 
boss, who does our licensing, had to call to get a MAK for WS08 R2 as it wasn't 
available on the Volume Licensing DL site-don't know if they've changed that or 
if it's still that way.

-Bonnie

From: Don Guyer [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows KMS licensing

That sums it up.

Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 4:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows KMS licensing

Has anyone here implemented Windows KMS activation at their site? I only sort 
of understand it - you stand up ONE 2008 server and give it a KMS key and it 
becomes the activation server once what...25 other systems check in...
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764






























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