I suspect that what would help more than VLAN would be QOS.  Configure
your ProCurve to prioritize voice traffic from the phones. VLAN can help
with that, but it's not essential for that.

 

You might also try connecting one of the phones separately from the
computer - by that I mean give the phone its own dedicated drop from the
switch.  See if that helps.  What are your workstations doing, though,
that would be saturating your pipe to the extent that your voice quality
is poor?  VoIP packets really aren't that big - on the order of 32kbps
depending upon what codecs you're using.

 

Have you tested the packet latency from the computer and/or the phone to
the Allworx server?

 

We recently deployed an Asterisk VoIP system for a client and have spent
a little time troubleshooting sound quality issues.  All of the phones
at the local site to the server are brilliant (and no VLAN).  The phones
at one of their remote sites, connecting back to the server over IPSEC
VPN, needed some help but I think we're on top of that problem now.

 

Best wishes and aloha, 

 

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
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Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com <http://www.rolandschorr.com/> 
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From: Evan Brastow [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: VLAN question

 

Preface: I have no idea what I'm talking about.

 

With that out of the way, I have a network consultant and a phone
supplier that are a little bit at odds.

 

We just purchased an Allworx IP phone system. All was going well until
it was made active today and because apparent that voice quality was
horrible. The IP part is only internal... External calls go over
standard analog lines. But the problem is with internal calls as well as
external.

 

The Allworx phones share a 100Mbps network with the computers. We're a
small company (smaller than ever) with about 25 computers and 19 phones,
BUT, a lot of those phones and computers are out in production areas and
receive VERY little use (i.e., someone will log in/out of a job once
every few hours, and make a phone call once a day out there.) There are
probably only about 8-10 active computers, and fewer active phones.

 

The way it's configured is that the phone sits on the same cable as the
computer. It goes from the wall jack to the phone, and then from the
phone to the computer. The phone are on the same subnet as, and get IP
addresses from the same DHCP server as the computer network.

 

When phone calls are made, there's echoing, latency, static, etc... The
switch is an HP ProCurve 2810-48G. Cabling is all CAT5 at least.

 

The phone supplier is telling me that the way to segment the traffic to
make sure there are no voice quality issues is to create a VLAN on the
switch. But my IT consultant is saying, "What's to segment? Everything's
on the same cable and on the same subnet?"

 

It appears now that the phone supplier is saying that he can create a
VLAN, and then they would use the Allworx phone system server as a DHCP
server for the phones, which would put them on their own subnet, thereby
making all the traffic flow better and the calls clearer. He said he'd
have to link the two VLANS together as there are computer apps that
interface with the phone system.

 

So, my question is (because I don't know much about this end of
networking,) does this sound like creating a separate VLAN is really
going to help improve bandwidth and increase call quality?

 

Thanks so much J

 

Evan

 

 

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