You should NOT have time skews...

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: just who's in charge here (dom controller query)

Make the other one a GC too.

You should have time skews like that. That's likely what you need to be 
investigating.

The PDCe should be syncing to a known-good external  source (like pool.ntp.org 
or something similar) and the other DCs should be syncing to it.

Check out "w32tm /?".

From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: just who's in charge here (dom controller query)

Some are dc1 (old ops master;pdc em) and some are set to the w2003 dc's.
Unfortunately, we've had some cases where the time is off by 2 - 3 minutes.
Both W2k DC's are gc and W2k3-dc is also a gc but not the other w2k3 dc.
Flat network so all on same subnet.
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From: mich...@smithcons.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: just who's in charge here (dom controller query)
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:43:25 +0000
PCs will sync their clocks to whatever DC they have their secure channel with 
(from a CMD prompt "set logonserver" will display that to you).

All DCs sync to the PDCe.

SO...everyone should still be in sync, to within milliseconds.

Are all of your DCs group catalog servers? Are all on the same subnet?

From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: just who's in charge here (dom controller query)

Here are the results from showrepl:

repadmin /showrepl w2k3-dc
Default-First-Site-Name\W2K3-DC
DC Options: IS_GC
Site Options: (none)
DC object GUID: 4c35da00-ce37-4623-9d4a-c2bc95e60f96
DC invocationID: bafcea0c-da79-439a-9315-9a235f56ed7e

==== INBOUND NEIGHBORS ======================================

DC=mmc,DC=mmcwm,DC=com
    Default-First-Site-Name\(old ops master w2K) via RPC
        DC object GUID: 25944c7a-efe5-4321-b2c4-6062bf41d6b7
        Last attempt @ 2010-01-19 13:27:56 was successful.
    Default-First-Site-Name\(secondary W2k dc) via RPC
        DC object GUID: d25285e6-c2f3-4971-acbf-d2289fb54733
        Last attempt @ 2010-01-19 13:28:03 was successful.
    Default-First-Site-Name\(secondary w2003 dc) via RPC
        DC object GUID: 41cfc51b-3bc9-4ace-95ed-2ad72e499990
        Last attempt @ 2010-01-19 13:29:34 was successful.

CN=Configuration,DC=mmc,DC=mmcwm,DC=com
    Default-First-Site-Name\*** via RPC
        DC object GUID: 41cfc51b-3bc9-4ace-95ed-2ad72e499990
        Last attempt @ 2010-01-19 13:11:29 was successful.
    Default-First-Site-Name\*** via RPC
        DC object GUID: 25944c7a-efe5-4321-b2c4-6062bf41d6b7
        Last attempt @ 2010-01-19 13:16:56 was successful.
    Default-First-Site-Name\*** via RPC
        DC object GUID: d25285e6-c2f3-4971-acbf-d2289fb54733
        Last attempt @ 2010-01-19 13:27:03 was successful.

CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=mmc,DC=mmcwm,DC=com
    Default-First-Site-Name\*** via RPC
        DC object GUID: 41cfc51b-3bc9-4ace-95ed-2ad72e499990
        Last attempt @ 2010-01-19 12:51:19 was successful.
    Default-First-Site-Name\*** via RPC
        DC object GUID: d25285e6-c2f3-4971-acbf-d2289fb54733
        Last attempt @ 2010-01-19 12:51:19 was successful.
    Default-First-Site-Name\*** via RPC
        DC object GUID: 25944c7a-efe5-4321-b2c4-6062bf41d6b7
        Last attempt @ 2010-01-19 12:51:19 was successful.

DC=DomainDnsZones,DC=mmc,DC=mmcwm,DC=com
    Default-First-Site-Name\*** via RPC
        DC object GUID: 41cfc51b-3bc9-4ace-95ed-2ad72e499990
        Last attempt @ 2010-01-19 12:51:19 was successful.

DC=ForestDnsZones,DC=mmc,DC=mmcwm,DC=com
    Default-First-Site-Name\*** via RPC
        DC object GUID: 41cfc51b-3bc9-4ace-95ed-2ad72e499990
        Last attempt @ 2010-01-19 12:51:19 was successful.

dcdiag shows w2k3-dc passing all tests.




________________________________
Subject: RE: just who's in charge here (dom controller query)
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:05:33 -0500
To: 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
CC:
From: christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>
What does replication look like in your environment? Run DCDIAG and REPADMIN to 
get a health status for AD replication.


Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Infrastructure Service Delivery
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003
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From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 10:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: just who's in charge here (dom controller query)

When we upgraded Exchange to 2007, we had to install W2k3 dc's. Right now we 
are in mixed mode as we have to keep a couple of the W2k DC's running.  W2K3-DC 
(server) is the ops master and pdc emulator.
However, I have run into two situations where it seems the old W2K DC (DC1) ops 
master seems to be causing problems.
Case 1: Windows time.  It appears most pc's are syncing their clocks to DC1 
instead of W2K3-DC.
Case 2: GPO's are not applying properly (note we don't have that many and they 
only apply to specific computers). Usually the error on the pc in question is 
that it can't contact a domain controllers to get the policy.
I'm perplexed over this as I thought that whatever was the Ops Master for the 
domain was the top-level controller (for want of a better phrase).
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