I guess I should look in to that.

So far on the 2 times I've had it, I just printed the file in parts.

-sc

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Dickson [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:23 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Printing PDF files
> 
> Yes but there is Generic compatible memory available for most of their
> printers that is considerably cheaper and works in most cases.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:16 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Printing PDF files
> 
> I recently found that the paper handling for my HP LaserJet would only
> behave "properly"[1] with the PS driver, and not the PCL driver for some
> esoteric cases.
> 
> On the downside, I've since experienced a few "out of memory" errors on
> complex print jobs... it appears that the postscript rasterizer is a bit more
> memory intensive.[2]
> 
> -sc
> 
> [1] In this case a 4x6 piece of card stock fed thru the manual feed. The 
> "guide
> tabs" on the tray force you to center the card stock when feeding, however
> the PCL driver acted as if the stock was positioned where the top=left corner
> of a piece of 8.5x11 paper would have been
> 
> [2] And of course HP couldn't just use a standard DIMM module on their
> printers... Noooo... it's some proprietary[3] RAM module
> 
> [3] Pronounced "Ex-pen-sive".
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:52 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Printing PDF files
> >
> > Yup. I've always found PS printers (or at least printers that have a
> > good PS
> > driver) to have better output than PCL, even if it is a bit slower.
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 07:47, Steven M. Caesare <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Specifically “Display Postscript” IIRC.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The NeXT cubes actually ran display postscript for their screen
> > > render
> > pipeline for exactly his sort of reason… output device agnosticism.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -sc
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:44 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Re: Printing PDF files
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In addition, PDFs (for text, at least, as opposed to embedded
> > bitmaps/jpegs) are internally encoded in PostScript, so the
> > print/display drivers are tiny PS interpreters.
> > >
> > > This actually is in the name of portability between platforms -
> > > especially
> > *nix.
> > >
> > > Kurt
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 07:24, Steven M. Caesare
> > > <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Indeed.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > PDF’s are basically rasterized within the PDF program itself, and
> > > the
> > resulting bitmap is sent to the printer.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Word, etc… send the text/font info to the printer, which rasterizes
> > > it as part
> > of the printing process. Vector graphics are passed tot eh printer as
> > well, altho bitmap graphics has to be sent as a bitmap blob.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The end result tends to be longer print times and larger jobs… all
> > > in the
> > name “portability”.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -sc
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Chris Orovet [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:20 AM
> > >
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Printing PDF files
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > When a pdf spools a 5 meg file can easily become a 200-250 meg file.
> > > No
> > matter what version of adobe ive used this has always been the case.
> > >
> > > Here is a 79 kb file that I printed as a comparison:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It blew up to almost 400kb amost 5 times the size of the original
> > > doc. I did a
> > paperless conversion for my company a few years back. All docs were
> > converted to pdf or word. Word docs had no effect on my printers or
> > print servers. The pdf files slowed everything down.
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> > > From: Mark Scott [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:07 AM
> > >
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Printing PDF files
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> > > Is it just me, or why do PDF files print so much slower than everything
> else?
> > >
> > >
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> > > I have a user who is printing Adobe PDF v1.6 files (Acrobat 7) to a
> > > Canon
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> > are printing text PDFs only.  I’ve taken a windows print server out of
> > the way and still slow.  I have tried different drivers like the
> > latest PS driver, HP LJ III, HP LJ 4, ect but still slow.  I’m leaning
> > towards the copier’s CPU just being slow, but any tricks out there to help 
> > it
> along?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Options currently set:
> > >
> > >             Auto-Rotate & Center is off
> > >
> > >             The only finishing is to offset the pages between print
> > > jobs
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> > >             Print quality is set to text (opposed to graphics)
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