The 1E products help take a lot of the mgmt out of the equation.

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Guyer [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: WOL cost savings

Yeah, something like this is difficult to gauge. What if some of the
users do not power down, or is there a management tool to allow you to
remotely shut down (add back in management time/costs)? I know that can
be scripted fairly easy, but it would still require
management/babysitting.

I'm not against it, just thinking out loud. Would be curious to know
some real-world results, if that's possible.

We are demo-ing thin clients right now (VMWare environment), so we
should see some power savings returned from those little guys, but that
was not the main driving force behind that project.

Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
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-----Original Message-----
From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: WOL cost savings

We are doing a pilot test of the surveyor green pc product from Verdiem
to see if we want an automated agent that controls our PC's to save in
energy among other things, but we are basically finding out that savings
aren't great until the long run. It does help with doing things like AV
scan, patches and what not at nighttime by controlling the PC state

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Guyer [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: WOL cost savings

Not having dove into the WOL computations myself, wouldn't it require
standby power?

A quick Google came up with an average of 10-15 Watts used for standby
mode.

We were just talking about this here last week, in regards to all of the
electronics in our homes that now run in standby mode.

Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
[email protected]


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: WOL cost savings

So far this is the best thing I've found online. 

http://www.eu-energystar.org/en/en_008b.shtml



Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Infrastructure Service Delivery
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: [email protected]
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003

-----Original Message-----
From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: WOL cost savings

Something like this....
Average 65 watts for 1 computer (while idle)
8760 hours in a year - 2000 (hours you are at work) = 6760 (hours you
are not at work per year)
65 watts * 6760 hours / 1000 = 439.4 kilowatt-hours
439.4 * $.119 (RATE) = $52.29 (cost per year of one computer being on
while you are not there) 


-----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: WOL cost savings

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:45, Christopher Bodnar
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Has anyone put something together to show management in regards to the

> possible ROI of using WOL? I'm more interested in getting some solid 
> numbers on the savings per PC per month. I'm not really sure where to 
> go in order to get these kinds of numbers. I've seen some general 
> stuff out there that range between $25-$75/year per PC. But not how
that was calculated.

One obvious metric is to calculate energy costs for the PCs - how much
electricity they consume when turned on 24x7 vs when turned on 8x5.
That alone should be fairly significant.

Kurt

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