Cisco's site is so uniformly bad that it would take some obscenely good /
unique features combined with extraordinary pricing to get me
to seriously consider their server offering.  I wonder if they know just how
awful it is...

Heck, I can barely tolerate HP's site, and Cisco's is an order of magnitude
worse.  (IMHO)

RS

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Barsodi.John <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yeah Cisco's site is horrible.
>
> We use many of the Cisco products for UC, connectivity, etc too.  I'd agree
> their stuff is all over the place.  However, the UCS blades are different in
> the sense of initial design.  The memory consolidation tech they developed
> is huge and single pane of management across multiple chassis.
>
> Thanks,
> JB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:20 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Cisco servers?
>
> If you say so. I spent about 30 minutes on the page you sent the link to
> and saw nothing saying 32 or 64-bit, other than a reference to x86
> architecture. I'm only picking on Cisco slightly since we use their software
> for VOIP and other communication purposes as well as VPN and ACS and I can
> tell you that almost none of their software is yet 64-bit capable so with
> nothing on the site stating that UCS is 64-bit my assumption with all things
> Cisco is that it is not capable until proven otherwise.
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 5:12 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Cisco servers?
>
> Mmm, UCS is Nehalem only, perhaps you've heard of it?  I think they've got
> the x64 thing figured out....
>
> Not saying it's the right solution for everyone, or even most SMB's, but
> their product does have a fit.
>
> I think in this day and age of cost cutting IT budgets are taking you have
> to look at alternatives to everything and evaluate them.  If you are looking
> to deploy a large new vSphere environment, the Cisco UCS blades might be a
> great fit.  If you need to grow and constrict your environment dynamically
> Cisco UCS would be a good fit.
>
> Thanks,
> JB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 2:45 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Cisco servers?
>
> Perhaps one of these days Cisco will figure out that 64-bit computing has
> in fact arrived. At that time they might have some legitimate claim to
> belong in the server space. Until then, they really don't.
> Personally, I would much rather buy an EqualLogic SAN with a PowerConnect
> shoved in the back, or a LeftHand SAN with a ProCurve built in; than a Cisco
> switch with God-knows what kind of server hardware hung off the front of it.
> JMO,
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 4:35 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Cisco servers?
>
> Does that mean you have to use IE5 with  the version of Java that shipped
> with Windows 2000 for the PDM type management interface, like you have to do
> with PIX PDM ???
>
>
>
> Erik Goldoff
> IT  Consultant
> Systems, Networks, & Security
>
> '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 5:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Cisco servers?
>
> Is this a surprise?  Got a demo of them a few weeks back, they are sweet
> and would work well in elastic environments.  The management looks like the
> Cisco PDM from 2004. The hardware scalability is really attractive.  Read up
> on what they've done with their memory optimization.
>
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/netsol/ns944/
>
> Thanks,
> JB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 1:57 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Cisco servers?
>
> I got that information from a Cisco reseller.
>
> The IBM servers they are selling are purely for the UCM VoIP stuff. Even
> then, that much may be temporary.
>
> Raper, Jonathan - Eagle wrote:
> > Hey Phil - care to reveal your source on that? The only thing I've
> > found is from a Cisco blog where some Cisco employee flatly states
> > that Cisco's servers are truly Cisco, and not manufactured by either
> > HP or IBM...
>
> --
>
> Phil Brutsche
> [email protected]
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