+1.  The advantage I see is keeping it simple - users don't have to determine 
"which domain name do I use?" depending on where they are working, or whether 
or not a VPN connection is active, etc.   And a single mail profile for Outlook 
RPC over https.

Carl

-----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 7:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Probably a stupid DNS question, but I can't figure it out.

Absolutely true. I was just questioning the idea that setting up split
brain DNS is a 'mistake'.

IMHO, giving up resolving the bare domain 'example.com' to
'www.example.com' is at worst a very small, extremely tiny annoyance,
which unfortunately some folks allow to bloom into a major political
battle, and I hope that's not what you're experiencing..

I still think it's an excellent way of setting up DNS, for many/most situations.

Kurt

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 15:49, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
> But OP doesn't want to have to use www on the inside, hence the problem.
>
>
> -ASB: http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker
>  Sent from my Verizon Smartphone
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Buff <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 12:54:08
> To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Probably a stupid DNS question, but I can't figure it out.
>
> I don't think OP has the same *zone file* for both. That would be a
> poor decision indeed.
>
> However, at $WORK we use the same domain name both internally and
> externally (example.com, no subdomains internally or externally), and
> aside from needing to put in 'www' while inside the perimeter, we've
> seen no issues, after moving away from an IPSec VPN to an SSL
> web-based VPN. Forcing all traffic over the IPSec tunnel is a major
> PITA from both a speed perspective and a client-management
> perspective.
>
>
> Kurt
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 18:00, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I wouldn't call it an "excellent decision" In fact, I'm aware of no-one that 
>> uses the same DNS namespace for their primary internal domain, and also the 
>> primary external domain.
>>
>> Split-brain DNS is fine, but using the same DNS zone isn't an "excellent 
>> decision" IMHO. I'm sure it can be justified in certain situations, but I 
>> wouldn't use it as a the rule-of-thumb.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Ken
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, 2 March 2010 3:33 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: Probably a stupid DNS question, but I can't figure it out.
>>
>> It's *not* a mistake. It is, IMHO, an excellent decision, but it does have a 
>> cost, as ASB and others have noted.
>>
>> I don't know what's involved in re-jiggering your domain, aside from 
>> standing up a new one and migrating all of your machines over, but it would 
>> probably be worth your while to investigate that before you do it.
>>
>> I'm sure there's more to it than I'm aware of.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 07:53, Chyka, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> yes I realize the mistake we made over 10 years ago when we created the 
>>> domain.  I will change the structure when we go to 2008 R2 next month.
>>>
>>> Thanks..Bob
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:44 AM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: RE: Probably a stupid DNS question, but I can't figure it out.
>>>
>>> Erm – OP is talking about internal name resolution. For an internal AD 
>>> domain: domain.whatever is going to resolve to DCs. This one reason not to 
>>> use the same domain for external and internal name resolution. Externally 
>>> use medaille.edu. Internally use corp.medaille.edu or something.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Karl Bickmore [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Monday, 1 March 2010 11:41 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: RE: Probably a stupid DNS question, but I can't figure it out.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Put in a host  (A) record on the domain name with no name details, but 
>>> still point it to the public ip.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Karl Bickmore
>>>
>>> 6613 N Scottsdale Road, Suite 101
>>>
>>> Scottsdale AZ, 85250
>>>
>>> 480-553-9967 X100
>>>
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please remember CCNS is a referral based business. If you have a friend or 
>>> colleague in need, we are happy to help. Feel free to pass along our 
>>> contact information to anyone you think we can help. Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 8:37 AM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Probably a stupid DNS question, but I can't figure it out.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have a Active Directory 2003 Domain with Microsoft integrated DNS 
>>> running for our company.  If I want to add a DNS record to get to our 
>>> webserver, but want it to resolve without the www, what type of record do i 
>>> use?  i was trying to put a CNAME record in, but it already has our domain 
>>> name in there by default and you cant change it and i cant leave the input 
>>> field blank for the hostname.  We want medaille.edu in a browser to 
>>> redirect to www.medaille.edu internally.  We have it working with our ISP 
>>> on the internet public side.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!  Bob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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