I could be all confused, but I thought there are no local users or
groups on a DC, so I'm having a hard time getting my head around the
first sentence in the OP.

Or am I totally missing the question?

I sure can't find a local group or user on ours, or even a way to find
one if it exists.

I found a post on the net that said you could list info using  net
localgroup administrators

I ran that on one of our DCs and it gives the following statement.

 

Comment  Members can fully administer the computer/domain. 

 

And "Net localgroup" lists all domain groups.

Also "net user" lists all domain users.

 

I'm also finding lots of posts that say "There is no such thing as a
local admin on a DC", that is until server 08 R2 and it must be a RODC.

So the end result is an account in the Builtin\Administrators group
would be an administrator on all DCs but "maybe" not the domain.

Now everyone tell me how confused I really am.

 

BTW, these comments are just for my own education.

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 11:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: BuiltIn\Administrators group on a DC

 

Builtin\administrators require one step - which I'm not going to
document here - to make themselves a domain admin.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: BuiltIn\Administrators group on a DC

 

Is it true that just because a normal domain account is a member of this
group on a DC that they do *not* have the same permissions as a domain
admin?

 

I want to know of this statement is correct: 

----------------------------------------------------

"If this service account could log on to the DC locally or via RDP (it
can't due to a GPO we have for service accounts) then it could (in
theory) access the ADUC console but even then it cannot do anything
because since it's not a member of Domain Admins or any group allowed
delegation. 

 

Example, adding a user account, the ADUC console tests <domain>\<service
account> against the "allowed to create user account in the domain" ACL,
and BuiltIn\Administrators isn't on that list.

----------------------------------------------------

 

What we're trying to do is allow a program that requires local admin
rights to install a program on a 2003 DC w/out making it a domain admin,
and my understanding is BuiltIn\Administrators can do this.

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

 

 

 

 

 

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