Mgmt from the Cloud is coming.  There are number of vendors who offer it.  One 
example is

www.viewfinity.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 7:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Cloud Computing (Was: DNS Server service shuts down shortly after the 
DC boots)

For all its flaws, I don't see cloud computing as a passing fad. It's not 
likely to go away, so the best we can do is to work to improve it.

I can tell you that my own organization is a big fan of it. Why? Well, we're a 
school district. Our core competency isn't the maintenance of complex IT 
system. We don't have the staff with the knowledge to maintain such systems, 
and we don't have the money to hire that staff. Our staffing levels have 
actually shrunk due to budget cuts, while the number of various systems and 
applications we're using is continuing to grow. Every new app means more 
storage space, more backup job complexity, more hardware utilization, more 
support requirements, more time troubleshooting, more time upgrading--the list 
goes on and on.

So what can we do? Outsource the maintenance of as many systems as possible to 
companies who specialize in that type of work (so they can almost always do it 
better than us) and who gain economies of scale (so they can almost always do 
it cheaper than us). Put the app in the cloud, and let someone else worry about 
things like backups, upgrades, and support. And having it web-based has the 
added benefit of there being no client-side software for us to have to worry 
about.

Reliability hasn't been a factor for us with our cloud-based apps. Our Internet 
connection is pretty reliable. If it goes down, we have alternate means of 
connecting to our most critical apps. Security? Well, the best we can do there 
is to have a good contract stipulating our requirements and the consequences of 
security breaches. I'm the most advanced tech in our organization, but I'm not 
a security expert--I'm a technology generalist, not a specialist. That means 
these companies can handle security AT LEAST as well as we can, and often 
better.

It's not right for every organization and every application. But for us, cloud 
computing offers significant benefits. We're leaning more and more on it all 
the time.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us







-----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: DNS Server service shuts down shortly after the DC boots

Oh, yeah.

Somehow, though, it seems to me as if 'the cloud' violates the CIA triangle of 
security.

At the very least,

a) availability is compromised (if you don't have Internet connectivity, among 
other things),

b) integrity is compromised (new ways of breaking out of VMs to the underlying 
host, and you don't know who you're sharing a physical host with, not to 
mention issues with network traffic from the various VMs on a physical host 
being sniffed.)

Color me deeply skeptical.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 17:34, Carl Houseman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Seems the 'cloud' is the new buzzword for how we're going to increase 
> profits next quarter.  The cloud will save us!  The cloud will reduce 
> our expensive fixed costs!  Has Dilbert done something on the cloud 
> yet?  If
>
> not, it's just a matter of time.
>
>
>
> From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 5:00 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: DNS Server service shuts down shortly after the DC boots
>
>
>
> True, but I’ll use OpenDNS way before using Google or MS DNS servers…
>
>
>
> The cloud the cloud…everything is cloud around my office with exec’s 
> …“SharePoint’s broke and we have no expertise here…move it to the cloud!
> Exchange, Live Communications Server, ship –‘em all out!”
>
>
>
> From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:26 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: DNS Server service shuts down shortly after the DC boots
>
>
>
> Not everyone wants to depend on DNS services 'in the cloud' even if 
> they're free...



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