You mean this century don't you?  BTW, where is all the money for rural
telco spending going.  I know it is not around here.

Jon

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:08 AM, John Cook <[email protected]> wrote:

>  No sign of it where I live (Gainesville Fl) either and like you I’m out
> on the fringe (I probably live just about as far out from town you can get
> and still have a G’ville phone #) so it probably won’t arrive in this
> decade.
>
>
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> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:49 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: National broadband
>
>
>
> Central Florida/Lakeland.  I was originally told, in December 2008, that
> they were slowing up the roll out due to the economy.  Since we are very
> rural they did not want to spend the money when they were NOT getting the
> sales they were hoping for.  That was per their sales people.  Since then it
> seems that the same people, their sales people, have changed their tune.
> They were getting upset as it became apparent that it was more where they
> were rolling out the service that was causing low sales.  They pushed out
> service into areas that did not already have copper in place.  Verizon was
> not rolling out the service into more developed areas or older/established
> neighborhoods.  You can't sell if there are no homes/people to sell to.  I
> have not seen any new work being done in a lot of my area since December
> 2008.  The only work I do see is when the state/county begins to work on the
> roads and Verizon is very quick to get out and mark where their fiber is.
>
>
>
> Jon
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Steven M. Caesare <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Where are you at?
>
>
>
> This is the first I’ve ever heard of Verizon de-emphasizing FIOS …
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:26 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: National broadband
>
>
>
> I only wish FIOS was available for my place.  It is across the road from me
> and Verizon has stopped pushing it out locally.  When I have talked to their
> sales/service people they are not happy either.  Sales complains about not
> getting any sales potentials and service because they are running into
> problems supporting the aging wire infrastructure as well as they have been
> trained on working with fiber and not getting to do any work to stay
> current/keep in practice.  Both have had people complain to me about it
> being like me just a little ways away and not getting it either.
>
>
>
> Jon
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Steven M. Caesare <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> My Verizon FIOS business class service is $160/mo for 15Mbps up/down and
> 5 static IP's (all usable).
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: N Parr [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:10 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: National broadband
> >
> > Ha, Regional Cable Co in my little podunk town of 1000 (of when we've
> had
> > DSL, Wireless, and Cable services for years) wants $250/month for a
> > "Business Plan" with static IP's.  Same plan I had for a remote
> warehouse
> > with Comcast was $80.  When I told them that they just said it's what
> we've
> > always charged and isn't going to change.  I just use DSL and no-ip to
> redirect
> > my entire domain to my basement.  Email, web,
> > etc all work great.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 8:59 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: National broadband
> >
> > As Steven Caesare said it would be nice to have a static IP at a
> reasonable
> > price without a whole bunch of restrictions. Unfortunately Windstream
> > deems a static IP to be part of a "business" plan and wants me to pay
> over
> > $100 / month just for DSL (NOT counting voice services,
> > etc) for 3 useable static IPs (5 total, IIRC -- 2 of the 5 are for
> their use - one for
> > the modem, I think and one for the broadcast.)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:51 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: National broadband
> >
> > Talking about no-brainers... In my area, DSL used to be the only
> broadband
> > option. Eventually, the cable company started offering faster access
> for the
> > same price. Do you think the local telco lowered their DSL rates,
> though?
> > Nope. I guess they figured folks would keep paying the same price for
> slower
> > speeds.
> >
> > They recently filed for bankruptcy protection.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:49 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: National broadband
> >
> > Well, just checked and my ISP has 6 Mbit internet available for the
> same price
> > I'm paying for 3 Mbit. No brainer here... I just ordered an upgrade.
> :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:31 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: National broadband
> >
> > Geez! I'd be more than happy with 10-15Mbit speed, or even a "true" 6
> Mbit.
> > I don't have that option, AFAIK, with my ISP.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hg [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:03 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: National broadband
> >
> > I always wonder the same thing. I even mentioned to two family members
> > that there was an even lower unpublished tier available that would
> save then
> > $20/month and after they changed to it they mentioned there was no
> > noticeable difference.
> >
> > Always on, reasonably low latency and a couple Mb speed works for a
> lot of
> > folks.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:23 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: National broadband
> >
> > I agree John.  My big activities at home are playing MMOs, for the
> most part.
> > My Comcast connection at 6-12 Mb is just fine for that.  I'm not
> running a
> > business out of my home or anything.
> >
> > What are people doing at home, for "personal" reasons, that would need
> > 50 - 100 Mbps down, and 50ish Mbps up?
> >
> > >>> John Hornbuckle <[email protected]> 3/17/2010 11:08
> > >>> AM >>>
> > I feel like such a neoluddite... I get 10-15Mbps at home via cable
> modem, and
> > honestly that's plenty fast for 99% of what I do.
> >
> >
> >
> > John Hornbuckle
> > MIS Department
> > Taylor County School District
> > www.taylor.k12.fl.us
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Jay Dale [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:54 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: National broadband
> >
> > From what I gathered from this site, they just want to release the
> capping
> > the ISP's do on the available bandwidth for the customers, not
> necessarily
> > allow Internet for all citizens.  ISP's truly have a large amount of
> bandwidth
> > available to consumers, yet to control pricing and overhead they cap
> speeds
> > and gradually release them on an accounting-time-period-basis.
> >
> > I have AT&T at my home, and the highest Mbps down available is 24Mbps,
> > but compared to a year ago, its twice as fast.  So it just happened to
> be
> > available now instead of last year?
> >
> > If I were to pay $65/month for 100Mbps/50Mbps, I would gladly do it.
> So
> > long as it's available.  Knowing it's available yet being restricted
> is what is
> > irritating.
> >
> >
> > Jay Dale
> > I.T. Manager, 3GiG
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> > From: Jacob [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:40 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: National broadband
> >
> > I could run a cable up to you from our OC3... ;-)
> >
> > From: Jeff Johnson [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:51 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: National broadband
> >
> > Though I would love to see the US and all broadband providers give us
> better
> > services, my concern is at what cost?
> >
> > If I look at my home service, 24 Mbps down and 1.5 up, is running $65.
> > That is pretty cheap, but still a LONG way from 100/50 Mbps.  I am
> really
> > curious what the government feels is "affordable access"?  It would
> seem
> > that only businesses would pay more than $100/month for service, but a
> > business would require some type of SLA.  At my office, I COULD get
> 100
> > Mbps service, but have no idea what the price would be.
> > Considering 3 Mbps service is costing me $530 for a business line, I
> would not
> > even want to consider the price.
> >
> >
> > Jeff Johnson
> > Systems Administrator
> > 714-773-2600 Office
> > 714-773-6351 Fax
> > [cid:[email protected]]
> >
> > From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:39 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: National broadband
> >
> > Thoughts, comments?
> >
> > http://www.broadband.gov/
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