If an unauthorized person used my bank card PIN to steal money, I would know. 
If an unauthorized person used my network password to steal information, I 
wouldn't.

To reduce password reset requests here, we bought myPassword from Namescape. 
Works great.



John



From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: please don't change your password!

Changes of 2 or 3 times a year are fine.

How often do you change the pin on your bank/debit/credit card?

Password resets constitute the greatest consumption of time for most helpdesks, 
and an overall drain on productivity when people can't access what they need in 
a timely fashion because they're managing 1,000,000,000,000 accounts.  
Deliberately introducing such changes to an environment when the safety factor 
is negligible at best for the threats being faced, is counterproductive.

What companies need to do is make sure that no shared passwords are in use, and 
that when employees leave, any passwords associated with them are disabled.   
*This* would address the largest vector of re-entry to a network using 
legitimate credentials -- ex-employees.


-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:40 AM, John Hornbuckle 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:
Is your position that passwords should never be changed?




From: Malcolm Reitz 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:25 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: please don't change your password!

Passwords of sufficient complexity mitigate the threat of brute-force attacks 
without having to be changed. And, if you know a user's password this month, 
you are probably 95% of the way to knowing his password next month (change a 
digit at the end, pick the next kid's name, etc.).

-Malcolm

From: John Hornbuckle 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 07:52
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: please don't change your password!

There's a flaw in the logic.

The Globe article states:

" . . . [U]sers are admonished to change passwords regularly, but redoing them 
is not an effective preventive step against online infiltration unless the 
cyber attacker (or evil colleague) who steals your sign-in sequence waits to 
employ it until after you've switched to a new one, Herley wrote. That's about 
as likely as a crook lifting a house key and then waiting until the lock is 
changed before sticking it in the door."

This fails to consider the situation where a user's password is compromised and 
the bad guy accesses the user's information on an ongoing basis. For instance, 
monitoring a folder that contains files with information about patent filings 
to see when new  files show up, or logging into OWA to keep an eye on e-mail 
messages. The unauthorized access will end once the password is changed 
(assuming a variety of other factors, such as the bad guy not getting the new 
password, etc.), and thus requiring regular password changes can be of value.

Similarly, regular password changes can mitigate the risk from brute-force 
attacks. If a password has to be changed every 60 days, for instance, the bad 
guy will only have 60 days to try to determine the user's password. This is 
generally considered to be better than the bad guy having an infinite amount of 
time to try to determine it.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us<http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us>





From: Brian Clark 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: please don't change your password!

After a long week doing a SBS migration I didn't know how to take this article 
and needed to share it!!

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2010/04/11/please_do_not_change_your_password/?page=1


Brian













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