I agree that TEC is a great conference to go to. This will be my third year
going. Lots of really smart people to meet and listen to. I saw Brett's
presentaion last year at Vegas and thought the same thing as you. I saw
Brian Desmonds presentaions last year and thought they were excellent,
looing forward to his again this year. I do not do that mush work on
Exchange so I have not seen one of MBS presentaion but I met him last year.
I have been on this list for several years now but usually do not have time
to post, i look forward to seeing some of you there and put a face to the
names I see posting all the time.





On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Free, Bob <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Mere words can’t describe Brett, seeing him and joe go at it was not to
> be missed. His stuff last year on ESE was amazing and even the uber-experts
> were shaking their heads so I didn’t feel so bad. Until I saw him last year,
> to me, he was just a mythical creature on activdir AKA “Building #7 Garage
> Door Operator” who wrote many of the moving parts of AD for like 5+ years
> before moving over to ESE. It was storied that they never let him off
> campus. When I first heard joe say something like, “I don’t understand a lot
> of what he says but I always listen and try to” I was a little skeptical ,
> but I started trying to follow what he wrote on activdir and made sure to
> listen to him last year. Scary smart indeed. Of similar caliber is ~Eric
> Fleishman but I thought I heard he moved on to a different world. I have not
> had the opportunity to hear Ross Smith, I will have to make a point of that.
>
>
>
> Oh and don’t sell yourself short, I would hardly call what I have seen of
> your work “filler”. You are too modest J
>
>
>
> Here’s part of a funny bit I saved from Brett from a few years ago when
> they were talking about theoretical limits of AD/ESE-
>
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>
> “Anyway along time ago we (some AD people) went through all the various
> aspects, issues, etc and we came up with "the safe value", that special
> value we wanted to claim / support ... and we started saying 1 billion was
> the official limit.  I updated the wikipedia topic on it awhile back.
>
>
>
> The issue joe mentioned with the # of pages in an ESE database being 2^31
> ... I like to state it as: "Jordie (my pseudonym for a paticularly talented
> developer) took away the high bit before he moved off the ESE team, and
> won't give it back.". <g> That is the funny way to say, paranoia drove one
> of us to cap it to explicitly positive page numbers.  Given that the file
> system is limited to 16 TBs for a single file for some paticular (?default?
> 4k? max?) "allocation size", I don't really see this being fixed anytime
> soon...
>
>
>
> My confidence ranges from 53% to 72% for all the above info ... I don't
> give a confidence of more than 80% to anything I didn't personally verify in
> code, and never a confidence of over 90% that I didn't personally test that
> the code worked like it looked ... that is experience talking.
>
> Confidences of 53% to 72% probably means talented and smart / non-blowheart
> types told me this information.
>
>
>
> *Cough* ... for the realists ...
>
>
>
> I've heard of two production ADs in excess of 50 M (less than 100 M
> though), and have seen 46, 85 and 100 M object test DITs.  I've never seen
> an AD database in excess of 100 GBs in size.  Basically, I'm neither worried
> about the # of objects nor the database size of AD databases, as clearly
> people haven't even gotten to an order of magnitude of the theoretical
> limits, and we've still tested higher than production deployments I've heard
> of / seen.  3 - 5 M is common for e-commerce directories.
>
>
>
> While thoretically we could give ~2/7ths of the world an account in a
> single AD database, that is not practical, limitations on backup/restore
> time, SLAs, amount of query load per server, will likely cause one to scale
> out and _probably_ partition (via NCs replicated to only some ADAM
>
> instances) before going to billion area scales.  Management of database
> size on these scales is non-trivial, and drives the real per server #'s of
> objects / database sizes one should support down below 1 billion.
>
>
>
> Even e-commece doesn't care about these kind of numbers, because if you
> look at the income of the 1 billionth richest person in the world, you'll
> probably realize she/he is not worth selling to.  Only hippies and the U.N.
> care about going above 1 billion accounts.”
>
>
>
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>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 2:34 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Security - Marc Maiffret
>
>
>
> And…on the AD/Exchange side of the fence, you should DEFINITELY hear Brett
> Shirley talk – he is one of the lead developers for ESE (the database
> platform on which Exchange and AD are based – he’s scary smart). I’m going
> to lock him into a room in LA and MAKE him give me some code this year he
> promised me last year. J
>
>
>
> For Exchange, you gotta see Ross Smith, IV (one of the absolute best
> Exchange people I’ve ever met) and Dmitri Gavrilov (who used to be on the AD
> team and is now on the Exchange team and can explain DSAccess/ADProxy so
> that it actually makes sense).
>
>
>
> (Not to mention me, Ilse, Scott, Nicolas, David, Juergen, etc. etc. – but
> compared to the headliners, we are just filler.)
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Free, Bob [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 5:19 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Security - Marc Maiffret
>
>
>
> I would be remiss if I didn’t mention to check out Brian Desmond’s
> presentations, I think he has at least 3. He is also totally top-notch.
>
>
>
> *From:* Tim Evans [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 10:24 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Security - Marc Maiffret
>
>
>
> And it is because of your comments (and Joe Richards') about TEC that I
> decided it give it a try. So, if I don't learn anything there, it must be
> your fault :-)
>
>
>
> ...Tim
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 10:07 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Security - Marc Maiffret
>
>
>
> And I will say that I personally find TEC more valuable than TechEd.
>
>
>
> Lots of very smart people willing to sit down with a beer and answer
> questions for you. No 100/200 level presentations. 350/400. Great stuff.
>
>
>
> I’ve known Bob for probably 10 years now on this mailing list. First met
> him physically at TEC (it was DEC – Directory Experts Conference then).
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 1:02 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Security - Marc Maiffret
>
>
>
> The Experts Conference. They have AD, IdM, Exchange, and SharePoint tracks.
>
>
>
> www.tec2010.com
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 1:00 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Security - Marc Maiffret
>
>
>
> What is this TEC everyone is speaking about?  June always is not a good
> time for me for Tech Ed, an April or May conference would be preferrable.
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Tim Evans <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Cool!
>
> I'm looking forward to your workshop and meeting you guys. This will be my
> first TEC. I'm doing it this year instead of Tech Ed.
>
>
>
> ...Tim
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 9:06 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Security - Marc Maiffret
>
>
>
> /waves back….glad you got approved to go!
>
>
>
> I’ve finished my presentation slides and am madly working to get my
> pre-conference workshop material done…
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Free, Bob [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 11:59 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Security - Marc Maiffret
>
>
>
> Yes, he has for a number of years. It was really ironic that my manager and
> I were chatting about him Wed night as his firm was doing some work with our
> infosec team because she knew he and I used to keep in contact, then this
> article hit the newsfeeds the next day. Maybe more eerily coincidental J
>
>
>
> He and I  chatted a little yesterday and I hope to meet up with him when
> I’m down there at the end of the month for TEC.
>
>
>
> /waves at MBS- See you the 25th
>
>
>
> *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 8:27 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Security - Marc Maiffret
>
>
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20002317-245.html
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> Doesn't Marc post here from time to time?  Good interview.
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