Speaking of WINS, if you don’t have any non-windows or pre-w2k clients, is 
there ANY good reason to keep WINS running on your network? If so, why?

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
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________________________________
From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Domain controllers, what is supposed to happen.

Hi Mark,

Have a read of this and see what you think:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/223346

<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/223346>You're not the first person I've 
encountered who thinks that about FSMO roles but I think Microsoft are pretty 
clear on this one.

I'd probably rip WINS out if it's not needed, by the way.

Cheers,

Andrew

2010/4/21 Reimer, Mark <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
I thought I read somewhere (this is years ago), that FSMO roles should be 
split, with some qualifications (some FSMO roles had to be connected together 
on the same machine).

DHCP is from server2 (yes, one of the DC’s).

WINS. Not sure if there is a real requirement.

Not sure if a reboot was done. I’ll check with the user today.

Thanks for the advice/comments.

Mark

From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 7:40 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Domain controllers, what is supposed to happen.

Hi Mark,

I have a couple of questions if you don't mind. Firstly why have you split the 
FSMO roles out on to two different domain controllers? It's not that it's wrong 
or anything, it's just simpler (and Microsoft's recommendation) to keep them 
all on one domain controller unless there is a specific need to do otherwise.

Secondly, which server(s) is/are your DHCP server? Another server right? Not 
one of the domain controllers?

Thirdly, what is your requirement for WINS, out of interest?

To answer your questions, yes the DNS/WINS services on the remaining domain 
controller should have fulfilled client requests, so I would certainly look 
into why that didn't happen. Did anyone try rebooting their PCs, as that may 
have helped?

If you had been unable to get Server1 running again then yes you would have had 
to seize the domain-wide FSMO roles (RIP) from Server1 on to Server2 and modify 
your DNS/WINS. But don't try and bring Server1 back up at this point ("Then 
work on getting Server1 running again, or replacing it."), you must rebuild or 
replace it.

Regards,

Andrew


On 21 April 2010 22:14, Reimer, Mark 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Sorry, long email.

Windows 2003 Native Domain, two domain controllers, server1 and server2. 
Workstations are primarily XP, some Windows 7. Other servers (file server, 
email etc) are all Windows 2003. We have about 150 workstations.

We have AD DNS, and WINS. Server1 has FSMO roles Infrastructure Master, PDC 
Emulator, RID Master. Server2 has FSMO roles Domain Naming Master, Schema 
Master. Both are GC’s.

In the DHCP settings workstations get both server’s IP’s as DNS. Server2 is 
listed first, then server1. Primary WINS server is server1, secondary is 
Server2.

Last night Server1 went down. It was off hours, but I got a call from some late 
night worker (using XP), saying they couldn’t do anything. Couldn’t reach any 
of the servers, or internet. I was able to get the server going again (bad 
memory chip, so I just took it out).

I thought that if one server went down, the DNS/WINS look up would go to the 
other server. But it might be slower (note, I didn’t try any of this, just 
going on what the user said). Comments?

If I didn’t get Server1 running again, what should I have done? I assume I 
should do the following.


1.       Seize the FSMO roles from server1, and put them on server2.

2.       Change DHCP so Primary WINS server is server2. Maybe even take out 
Server1 as DNS/WINS possibilities.

Then work on getting Server1 running again, or replacing it.

Did I miss anything?

Thanks for any help and insight you can give.

Mark









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Kind regards,

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MCITP Enterprise Messaging Administrator on Exchange Server 2007
Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE) on Windows Server 2003
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Kind regards,

Andrew Levicki
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Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist on Windows 7
MCITP Enterprise Administrator on Windows Server 2008
MCITP Enterprise Messaging Administrator on Exchange Server 2007
Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE) on Windows Server 2003
Cisco Certified Network Associate (CCNA)
ITILv3





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