I did the PIC long ago so they may have dropped that since but I
definitly suggest getting that clear so any additional costs are not a
surprise.

You were right, it's AOL and MSN that are free.

http://communicationsserverteam.com/archive/2009/10/01/588.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/communicationsserver/en/us/public-im-connectivity.aspx

Steven

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Brian Desmond <[email protected]> wrote:
> If the OP only wants to do single server configs (e.g. single edge, single 
> frontend) standard is fine. You need Enterprise to go to a pool config. 
> Enterprise CAL is required for the voice stuff in particular.
>
> Definitely want to budget for certs - DigiCert is where I would go for that. 
> Not sure offhand what the costs are to light up PIC - I didn't remember there 
> being a turn-up fee.
>
> Thanks,
> Brian Desmond
> [email protected]
>
> c   - 312.731.3132
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Peck [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 5:40 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: log Windows Live Messenger conversations
>
> There is a charge for the initial PIC connectivity so don't forget to look 
> that up too and you will need a cert for that.  If you have an ISA server 
> there are some scenerios that let you use that for a pass through edge 
> server.  We have the Enterprise version so I am vague on the differences in 
> standard vs enterprise.
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Bill Songstad <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Thanks guys.  I knew there was some sort of communications server.  It
>> never occurred to me that it was an Office branded product.  Looks
>> like cheap is not going to be in my solution.  Not terribly expensive
>> either though.  List is $700 +31 per user.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> OCS with Archiving and federation.  Otherwise some network logging
>>> appliance but i fthe clients are using something like SimpLite then
>>> you are out of luck
>>>
>>> http://www.secway.fr/us/products/simplite_msn/home.php
>>>
>>> Get OCS2007r2.  Connecting with MSN and Yahoo Public IM (PIC)
>>> networks now does not require a license.  Just block AOL or pay for 
>>> licenses.
>>>
>>> Steven
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Brian Desmond
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Bill-
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > You need an appliance. I know Symantec makes one as a previous
>>> > employer imposed this upon us. Depending on your FW/Proxy
>>> > environment that vendor might also make a plugin or have a 3rd party 
>>> > addin to it for this.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > A better solution would be something like OCS with Archiving and
>>> > Federation w/ MSN, etc., IMO.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Brian Desmond
>>> >
>>> > [email protected]
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > c   - 312.731.3132
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: Bill Songstad [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:52 PM
>>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> > Subject: log Windows Live Messenger conversations
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > My office uses WLM for communication to supplement email and telephones.
>>> > That battle is lost.  But the next battle is to log communications
>>> > through that medium for legal purposes.  My Google Fu has been less
>>> > than encouraging as the popular opinion is that since there are no
>>> > GPOs for WLM and since the reg keys needed are encrypted and
>>> > unpredictably variable, it wouldn't be possible to turn on logging
>>> > with Group Policy.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > So what I am asking is:  Does anybody know how to, or have a strategy to
>>> > administratively turn on logging for Windows Messenger?  Or will I just
>>> > have to disable it if we ever become involved in a lawsuit?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > What I need to do is turn on message history and prevent users from
>>> > turning
>>> > it off.  Ideally this would be something I could turn on or off as
>>> > needed.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Any insight would be appreciated,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -Bill
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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