I have a related question:

If you are separated, site to site, with a large layer 2 fiber network... would 
you put the traffic between routers over a VPN? Or is it common place for 
companies to "trust their providers" not to have a man in the middle, and just 
route?

I can't imagine anybody actually does this without an IPSec or OpenVPN tunnel 
of some kind... But I'm curious if there are.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


----- Original Message -----
From: Kim Longenbaugh
[mailto:[email protected]]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thu, 13 May 2010
13:05:09 -0700
Subject: RE: Network/WAN question


> It sounds like you have 10 PPP circuits to your remote sites, each
> currently a T1.  You're replacing the T1s with Ethernet circuits.  
> 
> Just replace this:
> >Main Site (172.20.x.x) ------ T1 Wan link (192.168.x.x) ------ Remote
> Site
> >(172.21.x.x)
> 
> With this: 
> >Main Site (172.20.x.x) ------ Ethernet "Wan" link (192.168.x.x) ------
> Remote Site
> >(172.21.x.x)
> 
> Your broadcast and collision domains would remain separate, just like
> they are now.
> 
> Unless your existing routers have the Ethernet port to handle the new
> Ethernet "Wan", you'd have to do your routing with the L3 switches
> anyway, so why not dump the routers and have just one piece of network
> gear at each remote site to manage.
> 
> 
> How would this work without routing?  How's traffic on 172.20.x.x get to
> 172.21.x.x, since those are separate subnets?
> 
> >When setting up the Fiber, because layer 2, I do NOT have to have a
> >seperate network for that WAN link anymore.  I can set it up like:
> >Main Site (172.20.x.x) ------ Fiber Link ------- Remote Site
> (172.21.x.x)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 2:42 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Network/WAN question
> 
> 
> Hello.  Looking for input on our current/proposed network.
> 
> We have 10 sites.  Each site is connected via T1 lines.  There is a
> router
> at each site that handles the routing.
> 
> We are replacing the T1 lines with fiber.  The company leasing us the
> fiber
> is handing off an ethernet port at each site (all layer 2).
> 
> My question is... Our current WAN setup with the T1s looks like this:
> 
> Main Site (172.20.x.x) ------ T1 Wan link (192.168.x.x) ------ Remote
> Site
> (172.21.x.x)
> 
> The WAN link itself is on it's own network.
> 
> When setting up the Fiber, because layer 2, I do NOT have to have a
> seperate network for that WAN link anymore.  I can set it up like:
> Main Site (172.20.x.x) ------ Fiber Link ------- Remote Site
> (172.21.x.x)
> 
> The downside with this is, broadcasts would still travel over the Fiber
> link since the WAN link is not on a seperate network. It does however,
> simplify things for me a bit.
> 
> The question is, which of the two methods would you use?   Putting the
> Fiber WAN link on it's own network or, not?
> 
> One other question.  Since my HP switches at the main/remote sites are
> able
> to do IP Routing, would you also remove the routers (which are needed
> with
> the current T1 WAN links) completly from the enviroment and do all
> routing
> at the switch level?  I'm leaning towards doing this and ditching the
> routers.
> 
> Thanks.
> J
> 
> 
> 
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