And it's so flippin amazing how many times I get distracted and called off to some problem where often my first line of defense when some brown matter is hitting the fan, is simply start with an easy reboot, and so often that’s all that’s required. You'd think users would figure this out before panicking and picking up the phone.
Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 1:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Veering even more OT - was: Re: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this? I have told some of my guys that it’s the karate kid methodology. If you don’t have connectivity. Check the cable, check link, check errors on switch... Cant ping, check IP, check subnet, check gateway Etc etc etc... Wax on, wax off Paint the fence Sand the floor Next thing you know you are doing karate or checking out networks.. Not completely accurate, but it wasn’t the best example of karate either.. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 12:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Veering even more OT - was: Re: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this? Agreed. You don't need to know OSI to be able to put some network infrastructure together. You don't need to know normalisation to design a database. You don't need to know OOP to write an application. But all of this theory is quite useful in doing things in a better way, because they provide frameworks that have been around for a long time, which many people are familiar with, and which haven't been replaced with something better yet. And as you acquire new knowledge, they provide the background info that lets you see how it all hangs together. Cheers Ken -----Original Message----- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2010 10:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Veering even more OT - was: Re: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this? It all comes down to this : The OSI model is part of the 'fundamental' knowledge. It's not 100% required to learn concepts above and more accurate, but it *does* provide a great background for learning and applying the knowledge you do gain. Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, & Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' -----Original Message----- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Veering even more OT - was: Re: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this? OSI, per se, doesn't help anyone do anything. But it provides a framework, so that when you're discussing some problem with another engineer/architect/PM and they say "why don't we do 'x'?" you can draw up something quick and say: "the problem is here: +- | <- what you are talking about +- | +- | <-problem is here +- This can help when architecting an encryption solution, or when you're troubleshooting some network issue. It provides a hierarchy of requirements (upper levels are not going to work if something lower in the stack isn't). Cheers Ken ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
