You don't need read permissions on a directory to open a file in it that you
have read permissions on, assuming no one messed with the default settings
regarding the Bypass Traverse Checking privilege. Which is why ABE can
instill a false sense of security.
Remember that Volume-local move will retain permissions.

-Anders

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Ziots, Edward <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ken,
>
> If they don't have at least read on the directory, they aren't getting
> access to it, which means they aren't going to have write, unless you
> explicitly add that accordingly, which I believe also adds read.
>
> I agree the NTFS permissions need to be correct, and you should lay down
> auditing, ( by Group, user or per-user auditing) to ensure that your
> permissions are working as needed.
>
> And TEST TEST TEST.
>
> Been using ABE for quite a while and it's a nice way to streamline
> things.
>
> Z
>
> Edward E. Ziots
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
> Network Engineer
> Lifespan Organization
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>
> -----Original Message-----
>  From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 7:48 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: File server structure and perms
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2010 9:34 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: File server structure and perms
>
> > Have you had experience is Access Based Enumeration? You can setup one
> master share, and unless you have NTFS permissions of read to the
> directory underneath, the user doesn't even see the directory, which
> means they wouldn't be able to read/write from it, and should solve the
> problem.
>
> Just because someone can't see a directory doesn't mean they can't
> read/write from it - they just need to know that the folder is there.
> Only appropriate NTFS permissions stop this, which means that ABE or no,
> the NTFS permissions have to be setup correctly.
>
> This is one reason why Microsoft didn't introduce ABE for a long time -
> it adds next to nothing from a security perspective. It just stops
> inquisitive users attempting to poke around.
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
>
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