I convinced her about the online credit card thing long time ago.  That one
was considerably easier.

On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Ziots, Edward <[email protected]> wrote:

>  +1,
>
>
>
> But again people are going cash-only these days because of the economy, and
> they are thinking that the debit card is tied to the available cash they
> have on hand which is tied to their bank account. It takes one nice XSS/CSRF
> attack via a malicious webpage while you are viewing your bank-system and
> whamo, they just stole your money, hijacked your cookie on your machine to
> replay to the server to access your account, and steal your money
> accordingly.
>
>
>
> Its pretty sick what the web application attacks can do these days, it isnt
> just about waiters stealing CC Card numbers with card swiping machines
> anymore, its organized crime behind a lot of these attacks, and they want
> only one thing, your money…
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
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> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 03, 2010 12:46 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: [ISN] Russian Trojan blamed for credit card losses at US
> diner
>
>
>
> I've been trying to convince my wife we need to go all credit card.  One of
> my concerns has always been something like this, and it hits our checking
> account.  Once that happens, you're really in trouble.
>
> A credit card theft like this is much more manageable.
> I know a lot of people who use a debit card at restaurants.  That just
> freaks me out.  Who knows if that waiter isn't also scavenging CC numbers?
> It's unlikely, but it's one of those cases that when it happens, you're
> going to be in a mess for a while, more so if your checking account is
> involved.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Which is why I also forward this to work, and will be showing it to
> our Senior Staff.
>
> They think I'm a paranoid freak, and I think that they need to know
> that they are lambs being led to slaughter if they ignore this.
>
> Kurt
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 08:56, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
> > And, that organized crime has moved the malware scene beyond the "look at
> > me!!!" stage.  They longer they stay undetected, the greater the ROI.
> >
> > ASB (My XeeSM Profile)
> > Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Carl Houseman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
>  >> Problem here, everyone seems so surprised that the infection was not
> >> detected by antivirus, and presumably, had no noticeable side effects on
> >> computer operation.  It needs to get into the public discourse and
> become
> >> common knowledge that AV is not enough.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:21 AM
> >> To: NT System Admin Issues
> >> Subject: Fwd: [ISN] Russian Trojan blamed for credit card losses at US
> >> diner
> >>
> >> The full article indicates that Seattle and San Francisco area
> >> businesses also might have been victim of this attack.
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: InfoSec News <[email protected]>
> >> Date: Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 23:28
> >> Subject: [ISN] Russian Trojan blamed for credit card losses at US diner
> >> To: [email protected]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://news.techworld.com/security/3237726/russian-trojan-blamed-for-credit-card-losses-at-us-diner/
> >>
> >> By John E Dunn
> >> Techworld
> >> 01 September 10
> >>
> >> Hundreds of lunchtime customers of a diner in the US city of Memphis are
> >> believed to have had funds stolen from their debit and credit cards
> >> after PCs at the venue became infected with malware.
> >>
> >> Large numbers of customers reported having had funds taken after using
> >> Jason’s Deli in recent weeks, which prompted an investigation by the US
> >> Secret Service, part of the Department of Homeland Security.
> >>
> >> After establishing that staff were not involved, police discovered that
> >> a computer system used by to verify credit cards had been infected with
> >> unidentified new-variant malware, which had logged and forwarded the
> >> data to criminals believed to be in Russia.
> >>
> >> “The computers received a virus that was unknown before this event,”
> >> said Special Agent Rick Harlow of the US Secret Service in a news
> >> conference. “No antivirus program that we ran against it found it,” he
> >> said.
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >>
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