Interestingly most Mac users don't struggle too much with Windows.  It's a 
whole other story for the opposite though.  The fact Windows is everywhere 
usually assists someone who primarily uses Mac because at some stage they have 
ended up in front of a Windows machine.

Personally I quite like the Mac interface.  It is easy to use.  Windows 7 has 
caught up to that in many ways but there is no doubt that in the past the Mac 
interface was easier (and prettier).

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, 9 September 2010 9:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix

In our environment, there are several _subjective_ benefits:

Software Costs
Ease of use (Especially for existing Mac users.) Ease of deployment Less 
Malware (Please note, I did not say a Mac was more secure!) Simple Management 
(For me, anyways.)

But they are expensive. I just got an email from my Apple rep offering us very 
nice looking 21.5" iMacs in quantities of 25 or more for $899 (These are last 
generation, and are offered to schools only, I think)... but we have been 
buying refurbished Dells for $350 with a 3 year warrantee. It's likely we'll go 
for the Dells, as our new budget can't handle the Apple tax.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


----- Original Message -----
From: James Hill
[mailto:[email protected]]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wed, 08 Sep 2010
16:14:38 -0700
Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix


> I guess it's the result of Windows being the majority.  Why go with 
> the minority if it poses extra challenges?  There has to be 
> significant benefits to do it.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, 8 September 2010 5:01 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Hill
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tue, 07 Sep 2010
> 19:38:07 -0700
> Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
> 
> > I find it hard to see the benefit of using Mac's in a corporate 
> > environment these days.  Once upon a time they were the system to 
> > have in certain environments (video editing etc).  but that really 
> > isn't the
> case anymore.
> > When I do see them in corporate environments they are almost always 
> > using RDP or Virtual Box etc to connect to a Windows environment.  
> > Why add that complexity?
> 
> If the goal is to reduce complexity, then defiantly stay with one platform.
> My argument has never been that adding Macs to your PC environment 
> will make it less complex.
> 
> But what I guess is really bothering me here is the "But you can't do 
> that with a Mac" mentality. Apple has made every effort to make their 
> platform work for you. If it can't be done on a Mac, it's because what 
> you want to do hasn't been made available for the Mac. Apple cannot 
> implement .net, even if they wanted to use Mono. So your .net 
> applications are never going to be useful on a Mac. Have a web 
> application that requires IE because it requires ActiveX? Again, this 
> isn't Apple's problem. Using Microsoft Word or Excel with a VBScript? 
> Sorry, no dice on a Mac. These are a few of the vendor locking tactics 
> which makes life (yours and mine) a living hell to support on a Mac.
> 
> I know that it's impractical to have a business which has fully 
> developed tools and applications in a platform specific environment to 
> move to something more cross-platform. And I'm not asking for the world to 
> change.
> Just don't blame the Mac for being a Mac.
> 
> 
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
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