Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining. animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts. good times.

Bill

Andrew S. Baker wrote:
*/>>/**/On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!/*

You actually need a Friday one? We've been running an all week special this week. Didn't you notice?

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On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to
    Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I
    was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, “I
    just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]?
    Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some applications, it
    might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said
    device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.

    On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!

    Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
    Technology Coordinator
    Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA_
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    [email protected]_
    _www.eaglemds.com
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    *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>]
    *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM


    *To:* NT System Admin Issues
    *Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation

    Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay
    for.  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.

    That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different
    enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is
    correct.

    However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device --
    within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is
    possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of
    quality or value.

    I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the
    very lowest end of the Avocent line.    TrendNet, Belkin, and a
    few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space
    price is not always the differentiator.

    While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today,
    years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of
    better quality.  But they were in the same enterprise level
    class... :)

    And I still greatly prefer Avocent.



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    On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    LOL, +1

    Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage
    more than 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely
    concur that in the area of KVM, you will usually, generally get
    what you pay for....I am open to evidence supporting the contrary.
     :-)

    Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

    Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid.
    Please excuse brevity & any misspellings.

    ----- Reply message -----
    From: "Jonathan Link" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am

    Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation

    To: "NT System Admin Issues"
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>

    What, they only lockup the server once a month now?

    On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:

    Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.
     A little.

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    On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle"
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
    I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky.
    (Isn't that who makes OmniView?)

    Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
    Technology Coordinator
    Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
    jra...@e...

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    From: James Kerr [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>]

    Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
    To: NT System Admin Issues
    Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...

    My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the
    Raritan,
    you must have thought I wa...

    ----- Original Message -----

    From: "Matthew W. Ross" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>>
    To: "NT System Admin...

    Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
    Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


    That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

    --Matt Ross
    Ephrata School District


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: James Kerr

    [mailto:clusterp <mailto:clusterp>.<mailto:clusterp
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    Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010

    11:31:45 -0700
    Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


    > Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!
    >
    >

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