Like the cars most of us drive? Most of the time you actually get a higher
pressure turbo with your extra hp but not even always that...

-Anders

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:42 PM, John Aldrich
<[email protected]>wrote:

> In my personal opinion, if certain "features" are disabled and the CPU is
> not capable of running at it's full potential (barring any manufacturing
> defects which would cause it to be sold as a lower performing chip, as is
> common these days) then I, personally, would consider it "crippled" or
> "hamstrung" if you prefer. That's my personal opinion and I think it's a
> lousy way to do business.
>
> Now, if you're willing to buy hardware that has been *artificially* "dumbed
> down" with the knowledge that you can undo that by paying Intel a fee, then
> by all means, feel free to do that. Personally, if I have the option of
> buying a CPU that is NOT artificially "dumbed down" or has some features
> disabled strictly so Intel can charge me to unlock those features, I will
> opt for the competitor's CPU that doesn't have those artificial
> restrictions. That's just my 2ยข.
>
>
>
> From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 11:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU
>
> >>That being said, I think it's a crappy way to do business... sell a
> "crippled" product then charge to "fix it."
>
> Please show me in that article what language led you to conclude that the
> product being sold is "crippled"
> As an example, should you pay for a two core processor, and the price you
> pay you deem reasonable for a two-core processor, and then Intel makes it
> possible for you to pay an incremental price to unlock two more cores (for
> a
> total that you deem is appropriate for a four-core processor), then what
> specifically is the problem?
> You appear to be engaging in a philosophical debate which lacks any
> practical pain.
>
> ASB (My XeeSM Profile)
> Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...
>
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:21 AM, John Aldrich
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> I agree... if you modify your Windows 7 install and it violates the EULA,
> Microsoft has every right to say "sorry... you violated the EULA, we're not
> supporting it." Same goes for a "bricked" iphone. I also would not expect
> Intel to support a "hacked" CPU. That being said, I think it's a crappy way
> to do business... sell a "crippled" product then charge to "fix it."
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:30 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU
>
> If you applied a hack to your Windows 7 installation that allowed you to
> bypass some of the security controls (e.g. product activation), would you
> expect Microsoft to support it?  The ruling says, "It's your hardware, so
> you can do what you want with it."  Apple says, "If you modify the
> operating
> system, don't call us if you have problems with it."  As far as I know,
> there would be nothing to prevent you from restoring the factory iOS to
> your
> phone and contacting Apple for support if the problem persisted (was
> hardware related).  If you bricked your iPhone trying to jailbreak it, then
> all bets are off.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 10:20 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU
>
> I wonder if it wouldn't be something similar to the recent ruling that a
> phone owner can legally "jail-break" their iPhone, but Apple can then
> refuse
> to support it???
>
>
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:58 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU
>
> Typically, that involved the single issue of illegal possession of some
> physical item.
>
> There's a whole area of new law that needs to be made on this area.  We're
> now in the situation where I legally own something, have legal physical
> possession, but you're retaining certain rights in relation to that item,
> and we've signed no agreement to that effect.  We have 3,400+ years of, if
> it's mine, I can do what I want with it, too.  We have case law to that
> effect.  Are we now putting EULAs on hardware?
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> Isn't stealing illegal in most countries? IIRC, that concept goes all the
> way back to the days of Moses...about 3,400 years ago, give or take a
> century ;-)
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> [email protected]
> www.eaglemds.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:00 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Ken Schaefer <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > You are getting what you paid for. And if you then decide you need
> something better, you can unlock those features without having to replace
> your CPU.
>
>  It wouldn't bother me so much except that you're actually getting the
> hardware, and then these companies inevitably try to enforce their business
> model through legislation which makes "unapproved activation"
> illegal.
>
>  -- Ben
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