Where is Stu when you need him to kill a thread? This one veered off in to the weeds at least 95 messages ago and I suspect I'm not the only one tired of hitting the delete key.
Let it go. -Malcolm From: William Robbins [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:52 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU Which comments do you object to personally then? I'm not in need of justification either. - WJR On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:45, Paul Hutchings <[email protected]> wrote: If you think that warrants some of your comments so be it, personally I don't. From: William J. Robbins [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 22 September 2010 18:42 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU And I'm all for that...right up until I get an off list, uninvited mind you, reply in my inbox. At that point you've crossed over whether or not "someone is wrong on the Internet" Queue -sc with the XKCD link. WJR - from my Crackberry. "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck." _____ From: "Paul Hutchings" <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:31:47 +0100 To: NT System Admin Issues<[email protected]> ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU You know I haven't been on this list too long but is this honestly what we want to see? If the guy's "wrong" he's wrong, big deal, life's a little too short to get too hung up on who's right out there on the internet. From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 22 September 2010 18:23 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU This conclusion is eerily like the "Application vs. OS" ending. I'm beginning to see a trend here. -sc From: William Robbins [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU You realize, of course, Mr. Carpet has already said "Good Day!" right? - WJR On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:53, Steven M. Caesare <[email protected]> wrote: The difference being, is that you don't tend to support your opinions (which you tend to assert strongly) with reason or facts. When given a solid reason that challenges your assertion, instead of addressing it, you alter the discussion, often using analogies that merely serve to re-state your existing opinion, rather than addressing the underlying challenge to your opinion. In this case, multiple experienced people explained why this model would be beneficial to you. Yet, AFAIK, you didn't acknowledge any of those logic cases, and instead went for the overused car analogy, and then eventually shifted your "argument" to being concerned that the consumer wouldn't be adequately educated about the potential upgrade options (which is quite different than your initial "concern"). "You keep making assertions that don't stand up to facts and then bail. Why?" -sc > -----Original Message----- > From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 11:19 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU > > *shrug* This discussion has gone on for awhile and neither side is going to be > able to sway the other. I see no need to drag it out and keep it going when > we're just going to disagree. I've stated my position, I've tried various > examples to explain why I think it's a bad idea, and vice versa, but neither > side has budged their position. Why drag it out and risk getting hateful over > it? > > You're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine. We're both entitled to > try and convince the other that they are wrong, but in the end, if we can't > convince each other, the best thing to do is agree to disagree. > > > > From: William Robbins [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 11:02 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU > > Nice cop out. > > - WJR > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 08:56, John Aldrich <[email protected]> > wrote: > I think we're going to have to agree to disagree. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:45 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2010 8:52 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU > > > Here's something I thought of... Sure you'll be able to buy an "unlock" > > code, but will the end-user realize that they are getting the same > physical > > hardware as someone who pays more and know that they can unlock > better > > performance? Thinking about the folks who go into Best Buy or WalMart > > to buy a new computer (this appears to be the market that this new > "feature" > is > > aimed at.) My thought is that they're going to buy whatever is on the > shelf > > and not realize that they just need to buy an "upgrade"/unlock code to > enable > > better performance. > > > > How is that going to help the end-user? > > As long as Walmart doesn't say that the CPU is Quad-Core, but neglect to tell > you that you have to pay extra. > > If Walmart says that the CPU is dual core, 2GHz and supports VT, and it costs > $x, then why should anyone care that the CPU can do extra for additional > payment. > > Cheers > Ken > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- > software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _____ MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 114 5409 96 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. 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