You can buy two PS4000 EQ's for 30k.  Dell was selling a complete 
virtualization package last week with two 810 servers, PS4000 SAN, Two 
Powerconnect 5424 switches, and your choice of vSphere 4 or Windows 2008R2 with 
Hyper-V for 26k. 

-----Original Message-----
From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SAN question

To answer your questions in order:
1) Failover capability would be very good to have. I need a minimum of two 
controllers so that if one fails, at least we can run on the other until we fix 
the first. That could also be handled by a dual-controller "head" unit.
So that brings single-node with dumb drive trays back equal with "smart"
trays.
2) Scalability -- I firmly believe that your data WILL eventually grow to match 
available disk space, so I'd like the ability to add space easily.
That being said, either method will work to add space.

So far, my *MINIMUM* requirements are as follows:
1) No single point of failure (Redundant power, redundant controllers, RAID, 
redundant Ethernet, etc.)
2) Approximately 5 Tb of useable disk space (that should give us a little 
breathing room once we start redirecting critical folders from users'
desktop machines and add in email)
3) RAID 5 minimum to help prevent loss of data from drive failures.
4) Under $30K
5) Any replication needs to be done on the SAN and not involve software (such 
as Backup Exec) on a server.

Anything more than that is gravy.

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SAN question

I think we have given you the benefit of our knowledge.
Several times even.  

What requirement do you have that would be met by additional controllers? 
Failover capability?  Scalability?  Again, for like the third time, what are 
your requirements, that'll drive your analysis.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:16 AM, John Aldrich <[email protected]> 
wrote:
Ok, guys. I'm trying to narrow down my many choices with regards to our 
on-going search for a SAN manufacturer. I'd like your thoughts on the whole 
question of adding more intelligence vs just adding more disks. i.e. the EQ vs 
LeftHand models.

I can see arguments to be made for both models. I'll tell you that, initially, 
the SAN is going to be a glorified file server, however, we plan on hosting our 
email data store on the SAN when we bring email in-house later on. I've already 
verified with the email vendor that I hope to use that this is not a problem, 
so that's a non-issue. Other than that, the only database we would store on the 
SAN would possibly be the database from our Vipre install, although initially 
that would stay on the local storage.

So, I'd like to see some discussions of the benefits of just adding a tray of 
"dumb drives" or adding a complete controller along with the drives (a la
LeftHand.)

I just don't know enough about the benefits of each model to know what would 
work best for us. I'm hoping that you guys who are more experienced would give 
me the benefit of your knowledge.



Thanks,
John Aldrich
IT Manager,
Blueridge Carpet
706-276-2001, Ext. 2233




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