And I had to drive in...

Between a 7.4 mile lake paddle and a 62.3 mile hilly bike ride, I messed 
my wrist up to the point I can hardly type.

Hopefully back in action in a couple of days.

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William Robbins <[email protected]> wrote on 09/28/2010 01:55:50 PM:

> And here I was thrilled I took the stairs to the cube today...
> 
>  - WJR
> 

> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 13:48, Free, Bob <[email protected]> wrote:
> And here I was thrilled with just making it almost 5 miles yesterday?
>  
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:54 AM
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OT RE: Small server
>  
> I?m trying to train up for my first 10K ? the idea of over 45K just 
> blows my mind?
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>  
> From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 1:24 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OT RE: Small server
>  
> I know people that have run marathons.  Does that count?
>  
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 12:23 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OT RE: Small server
>  
> VERY impressive.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>  
> From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 1:03 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OT RE: Small server
>  
> I was aware of that danger, but I assure you, it?s chronological only, 
sir!
>  
> Physically, I?ve run 9 marathons in the last 4 years since I turned 52.
>  
> Emotionally, well, according to my wife?.
>  
> never mind.
>  
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:56 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OT RE: Small server
>  
> Showing your age there? :-P
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>  
> From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 12:52 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: OT RE: Small server
>  
> Off on a tangent here?
>  
> I was wondering if they refer to you male child as ?Will Robbins? son?
>  
> (assuming you have a male child, of course).
>  
> From: William Robbins [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:24 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Small server
>  
> +1
> 
>  - WJR
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:17, Jonathan Link <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> A lot of vendors say that about their apps.  Some of our apps aren't
> supported in VM's, either.  I still call them when I have problems, 
> and they still fix the problems.  In no case has virtualization been
> a problem.  In one case, I had a rep remote into my session to 
> assist, he never knew it was a VM.
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 11:11 AM, John Aldrich 
<[email protected]
> > wrote:
> Ok. Back to the drawing board. I emailed Kronos support and they say 
that
> TKC is NOT supported on virtual server. :-( I suppose I could lie to 
them
> and create a virtual server and install it there anyway, but it may be
> better to just either switch to a different time and attendance product 
or
> buy a physical server. :-(
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:56 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Small server
> 
> And why the hate for Software RAID? Let me be more specific: What is 
your
> definition of "Software RAID"?
> 
> Window's built in RAID capabilities? (100% Software RAID)
> ...or...
> Inexpensive "Host RAID"? These are usually built into chipsets or cheap 
RAID
> cards. (Mostly software)
> 
> If we're talking Window's built in software RAID, I would agree: Avoid 
at
> all costs. I have not had much experience with it, but the little I did 
have
> was disappointing... Not to mention the general dislike by the tech
> community of MS's RAIDs.
> 
> The Host RAIDs are hit and miss, mostly miss. I have had good experience
> with Intel's RAID chipsets, but usually not for anything more than a 
RAID 1.
> The recent "Matrix RAID" chipsets from intel have been excellent. Also, 
the
> overhead from running a Host Raid is not as bad as it used to be. Hard 
drive
> speeds have increased, but not at the scale of CPU power. So for a 
"small
> server" like what John asked, I would definitely consider it.
> 
> But if a real RAID solution was only $100 more, I'd skip Host RAID and 
go
> for it. But we all know most real hardware RAIDs are not that cheap. It 
all
> depends on what you're willing to spend.
> 
> Now, if we were talking Linux, I'd be recommending software RAID over
> everything but the highest-end RAID controllers.
> 
> 
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Erik Goldoff
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tue, 28 Sep 2010
> 07:19:00 -0700
> Subject: Re: Small server
> 
> 
> > curious, why do you shun SATA ?
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:14 AM, James Kerr <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> >
> > > Kind of important software. I would make sure the server was 
hardware
> > RAID1
> > > with 2 hot swap SAS drives NOT SATA at a minimum just for the
> redundancy.
> > No
> > > software RAID. Whats wrong with SCSI?
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Aldrich" <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > To: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:08 AM
> > > Subject: RE: Small server
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry. I guess I should have specified this is for Kronos Time 
Keeper
> > > Central.
> > >
> > > Server hardware requirements are very basic. It has to be capable of
> > > running
> > > Windows 2000. It's not a very resource-intensive software. It's got 
a
> > small
> > > DB and has to be capable of allowing multiple people to access it 
over
> the
> > > network (via "client" software loaded on their machine) The machine
> that's
> > > currently running the time and attendance software is a P4 2.8Ghz 
with 2
> > > Gig
> > > of RAM running Windows 2000. My main problem is that it's running 
off a
> > > single HDD, and a SCSI drive at that.
> > > Cut/paste from the system requirements document:
> > > 750 Mhz+ 1 Gigabyte NT4 , 2000 Server 2003 Server 1 Gigabyte
> > > Free disk space.
> > >
> > > As you can see it's very basic requirements. TKC has not been 
updated in
> a
> > > LONG time and probably won't be updated ever again. I spoke with a
> support
> > > engineer, and he said that he's seen it running on Windows XP, but
> that's
> > > not supported, as XP is not a "server" O/S, which is required for
> multiple
> > > clients accessing the machine at one time.
> > >
> > > Thanks... Hope this answers your questions WRT system requirements.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 9:59 AM
>  
> > >
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Small server
> 
> > >
> > > Once again you give us absolutely no app requirements.
> > >
> > > Therefore the answer is: maybe.
> > >
> > > -sc
> > >
> > > From: John Aldrich [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 9:55 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Small server
> > >
> > > I am looking at getting a small server running Windows Server 2003, 
so I
> > > can
> > > have my time and attendance running on a supported O/S. Looking at
> Dell's
> > > Premier site, the least expensive option only offers a Software 
RAID5,
> > > unless I'm mis-reading the options. Would you guys rather have a
> Hardware
> > > RAID0 / RAID1 or a software RAID5?
> > >
> > > Any other options I should be looking at for a small server? We're
> > > primarily
> > > a Dell shop here, but I can look at others, including "white box"
> servers,
> > > so long as I can get some sort of warranty / hardware support on it.
> > >
> > >
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