Yeah lets just say you get what you Negotiate, not what you pay for, and with downtime like we suffered ( along with others) that was just the bargaining chip someone had to basically strong arm Mcafee accordingly. Whether it turns out to be a good move or not, only time will tell J
Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:[email protected] Cell:401-639-3505 From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AV Opinions I guess we should have had your sales rep. *sigh* From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 7:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AV Opinions Wish I could say the same here, basically they gave us everything and the boat for like 3+ yrs, but that doesn't make up for the downtime of the 5958 dat fiasco either. I can't say for certain that it will get any better with Intel owning them now, but I guess that is Intel's problem to deal with now. Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:[email protected] Cell:401-639-3505 From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 8:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AV Opinions We will be moving away from McCrappy after our current agreement expires. Not necessarily because of how their product performs (but that is part of it), but because of the way they handled the 5958 DAT fiasco. They made promises to our company for compensation and then reneged on the deal. I doubt they really care now that they're in bed with Intel. -Paul From: Ray [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 6:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AV Opinions That's interesting, because we absolutely hated McAfee and it's enterprise console, and couldn't wait to get rid of it. We've ended up with significantly better coverage with Sophos than we ever did with McAfee. From: Alan Davies [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 2:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AV Opinions Sophos seem to be excellent detection wise. As for not detecting Conficker below, that'll have been another issue as there is no AV product out there that can't detect it. If I had to guess, perhaps one host was infected and locked out AD, but all the Sophos alerts were from machines missing MS08-067 that were "getting infected" because the OS could not protect against it, but immediately cleaned by Sophos. Certainly behaviour I've seen before. You must patch Windows, AV can do everything on its own. One negative comment about Sophos - they are still, in my opinion, very low down the pecking order in Enterprise Management. They have a long, long way to catch up on McAfee and the like for agent management, alerting, mandatory policies, etc. You can work around these things and it's a great AV product, but if you're a large, sensitive environment, it may frustrate you a little. Going from 7 to 9 didn't improve these grumbles much ... a ________________________________ From: Ames Matthew B [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 07 October 2010 08:12 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AV Opinions We run Sophos here, and it seems to do a reasonable job. Corporate IS got caught last year with their pants down after a departmental server without any AV on it (or seriously out of date - guess someone got a good telling off for that) managed to get Conficker. Given we don't have a direct net connection to our deskstops or services network, they had not bothered to install the hotfixes to prevent this For what ever reason Sophos did not detected it, and quite a few machines got infected, and a couple of thousand user accounts got locked out. Took them a few days to get things under control - I wrote a little ldap tool to monitor the number of locked out user accounts :-) Sophos is a bit of a memory hog (not sure how it compares to other versions), taking around 150MB (savservice.exe alone is taking 108MB on my machine currently). We are currently using 7.6.20 tht, Matt ________________________________ From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 07 October 2010 01:23 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: AV Opinions Give Sophos a long look. I firmly believe they are the best of breed that nobody seems to talk about. They don't market to the non-corporate crowd, so that probably has something to do with it. I asked this list and a few other resources when I was evaluating solutions. I did not hear from a single person using Sophos that did not like it. We are replacing Symantec with Sophos right now and it is going very well so far. Sophos will sync with AD (if you want) to automatically protect computers when you add them. It will remove Symantec cleanly (so far on about 25 test/pilot users it has been perfect) when pushing it out. It includes device control (want to block USB storage devices...2-3 clicks and you are done), a NAC component, and a firewall. It also includes clients for Mac/Linux and with each corporate license, you get a free at-home license. NFI - just a very satisfied customer so far. Jim ________________________________ From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wed 10/6/2010 7:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: AV Opinions At one of the shops that I look after, I have been asked to change the AV to something new and current. Vipre and Forefront excluded (I know enough about those already), what else are you guys using that's good? 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