+1 from here as well. A vCenter reboot should not require a host reboot. If it 
did, that would (IMHO) be a huge problem in the design and purpose behind 
VMware. Talk to VMware. If your maintenance is not current, get current.

On a related note, YESTERDAY, one of our storage groups on our SAN ran out of 
space (fortunately I'm not in or over the group responsible for that anymore!), 
and thus took down a number of systems, all part of our core electronic medical 
record system, eClinicalWorks, all virtual... We were without that app for more 
than 6 hours, and are still dealing with database replication issues today as a 
result....

TGIF!

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
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From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 9:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How'd this for a bad day? AKA bad me

+1  I'm just getting caught up on emails this morning.  vCenter reboot 
shouldn't necessitate a reboot of a host server.



On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Jeff Bunting 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Why do you need to power down VMs to reboot vCenter?  vCenter might be the 
problem with the missing VMs.  VMWare support might be able to help you with 
those.

Jeff
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 5:51 AM, David Lum 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I have 7 production systems running on 3 different ESX boxes in an ESX cluster, 
and 2 different logical SAN volumes (sorry am not SAN savvy, I just know I have 
two different SAN volumes to choose from when making a VM).

Today, a SAN blows up and takes out half - our SharePoint server (heavily 
used), a Terminal Server , and an internal occasionally-used web server 
(Namescape rDirectory). Then somehow, when I was told to power down the other 4 
VM's so our VMWare guy could reboot a vCenter server, 3 of the 4 remaining VM's 
decided to go AWOL (a combination of "missing" and "disconnected"). That took 
out my other two Terminal Servers and another lightly used internal web server.

Did I mention I don't have the normal backups for these things because 
...well...I'm an idiot and didn't confirm our backup guy installed backup 
software on these servers as I stood them up (process error on my part since I 
should confirm it's on there). None of these store data - they all talk to a 
backend SQL and the Terminal Servers are used to run apps that are slow if they 
run the same apps over VPN. SharePoint we got back quick because we do have a 
staging equivalent of it, so it was repoint to a config and content DB, DNS 
change, and done.

I do have copious notes on how I built the others and can rebuild from scratch 
easily enough (I just finished the three TS boxes), but dude...six servers at 
once?

The most frustrating part was discovering that the 4 systems that had been 
powered off could have been "migrated" before power off and there would have 
been no issue with them - the power down nuked 'em.

Oh, and the lone surviving server - the PGP Universal Server that manages the 
encrypted machines. (Yes, the PGP machines will still boot w/out the server up, 
but still, I've been on this server 50% of my time over the last two weeks!).

Dave

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