In the OP's context, "They are buying" means they are renting to own - the 
laptop is not their property yet. RAC = Rent-a-Center, otherwise known as Ream 
And Collect.


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From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 11:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 7 question

WTF?
They're buying something from a company and it has junk on it already?  Take it 
back...

No, the customer is not always right.  I've walked away from work when I was 
asked to do something that was illegal, unethical, or just plain stupid.
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:01 AM, John Aldrich 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I hear you on the "Nuke and Repave" option, but I don't know if they have
the restore disks or what... this is a laptop they are buying from R-A-C, so
who knows what options they have. :-/

I will talk to them about not running as an "Admin" and see if I can create
a new account and then reduce the functionality of their existing one if
they don't want me to nuke and repave. Obviously, even if it's just family,
"The customer is always Right" is the way to go. All you can do is warn them
that it may not be 100% clean.



From: Jonathan Link 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 7 question

Perhaps...
I don't use SpyBot anymore, so I can't comment about Win7 compatibilities,
since Vista had UAC, I'd imagine that it would work that way, but I've seen
more trouble with apps that worked under Vista not working under Win7, than
apps working on XP not working on Win7.

In general, when working with an unknown system, nuking and repaving is much
faster than trying to clean out malware and then being unsure that you got
it all.  Is it a pain?  Sure, but so is being without a computer for several
hours/days and then having a nagging feeling at the back of my mind that I'm
giving them a less than optimal system.  Also, garage clients and friends
get the, don't run as admin speech and if I nuke and repave, they get two
different accounts...
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:42 AM, John Aldrich 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Hmm... even though I started SpyBot as an Admin? I never got prompted for
permissions to modify a system file like I would have expected. I'll try
temporarily disabling UAC when I get home and see if SpyBot will update the
hosts file.




-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Rector 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 question

UAC

Sean Rector, MCSE

-----Original Message-----
From: John Aldrich 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 8:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 7 question

Quick question -- is there something in Windows 7 that would prevent
SpyBot from writing to the Hosts file? I cleaned my brother-in-law's
laptop and tried to add the SpyBot Hosts file, but was unable to do so
from within SpyBot. Eventually I just put the Hosts file from my wife's
XP box on a flash drive and copied it over, but I am trying to get ready
for Windows 7 here in the office and thought I'd ask. I *did*, at least,
know enough to try running SpyBot as an admin, but that still didn't
allow me to add the Hosts file. :(

I'm suspicious, especially after reading a thread on the SpyBot S&D
forums, that there may still be a trace of what was infecting his
computer lingering around. I've already run VipreRescue and
MalwareBytes, but wanted to add the SpyBot Hosts file as an added
precaution.

Thanks....






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