Definitely been in your shoes – my first SSG-5 is a little over a year and a 
half old now and setting that thing up was an experience to end all 
experiences. You may benefit from trying it on the command line – simple 
policies make a lot more sense written out. Also swing for Tier-2 support as 
the Tier-1 people vary wildly in quality.

If you're still having problems make sure you try another firmware version for 
the device – I had ipsec issues with the client who got the device for about a 
month until I tried one of the later releases and then poof, all fixed 
overnight.

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Jack Kramer
Computer Systems Specialist
University Relations, Michigan State University
w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955

From: Ben Schorr <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 12:41:35 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: RE: Small/Mid Firewall?

Well I think part of the frustration is that appears that to create a simple 
port forward that sends all incoming traffic on a specific port to an internal 
server (for example) requires 17 different “policies” and “interfaces” and 
“zones”.  I’m exaggerating a bit, yes, but the Juniper seems very powerful and 
ridiculously complex.  We’re not trying to do anything fancy and it’s taken 
more than 2 days to get it even half working and that’s with more than an hour 
of a Juniper support engineer remoting into it and working on it themselves.

The old SnapGear 580s (before McAfee bought SnapGear at least) could be set up 
for this in 15 minutes or so.  Even a newbie could figure out how to set up a 
basic port forward fairly quickly.

I suspect we’ll like the Juniper…once we get a thousand pages or so deeper into 
the documentation and figure out how to actually make the damned thing do 
anything useful.

We have one IPSEC tunnel created with it (created by the Juniper engineer).  
The dashboard on the “Home” Screen says it’s “Inactive/Unused” but the VPN 
monitor lists it as “Active”.   Ummm….o.k.

This morning my day started with a phone call from one of the local users 
telling me they can’t even get on the web.  Good grief.

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
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From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 5:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Small/Mid Firewall?

I agree with Andrew … I’ve been configuring the Juniper ‘screens for years now, 
including the 5GT and SSG 5 that replaced it.
Granted, the Juniper is very different from a Cisco PIX/ASA firewall, and 
different from Checkpoint.
I wonder if extensive knowledge of some other brand of firewall is what is 
causing your minions problems with the Juniper.

Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security
'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
From: Ben Schorr 
[mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]>
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 1:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Small/Mid Firewall?

Well, to be fair *I* haven’t looked at it yet myself.  It’s been in the hands 
of two of my junior people; at least one of whom is generally very capable and 
has deployed several other firewall/routers of other vendors in the past.  But 
he’s spent the better part of all day trying to get the Juniper working and 
finally has resorted to having Juniper tech support remote in and try to get it 
working.

Apparently even the Juniper support person has spent quite a bit of time 
wrestling with it to only mixed results.  It gives me some pause that even a 
Juniper support engineer would struggle with getting this unit configured.  But 
I’ve still got 2200 more pages of the manual to read so…


Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
______________________________________________
Roland Schorr & Tower
www.rolandschorr.com<http://www.rolandschorr.com/>
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: Andrew S. Baker 
[mailto:[email protected]]<mailto:[mailto:[email protected]]>
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 8:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Small/Mid Firewall?

Really?  IPSec VPNs are one of the easiest things to configure on those devices.

In fairness, however, I've been using Netscreen devices since Feb 2000, so that 
might simply be familiarity talking.

The VPN wizard is very straightforward



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