Why do you have to keep the same host that's running vcenter?  Is your
DB SQL Express or separate server?  Asking because according to Vmware
best practice is now to virtualize your vcenter server.  We just did our
migration from vsphere 4 to esxi 4.1 and I found it was easier to just
start over from scratch with vcenter since there's no upgrade path from
32 to 64 bit.  And our DB on running SQL Express.  I couldn't find a
good white paper to lay out a simple way to migrate the vcenter data to
a new server.  Even with View in use in our environment it was easier to
start over from scratch with a new vcenter server.  Although we don't
have 10 hosts like you do.  But yes you are right, add the old hosts to
the new vcenter, migrate the machines off to the new hosts and remove.
In my case I was re-using the same host hardware so I vmotioned the
guests off a host, wiped it, added it to the new vcenter and moved the
guests back.   

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Leone [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Upgrading VMware ESX 3.5 to 4.1 advice needed

I have a VMware ESX 3.5 cluster (10 hosts, HA and DRS). We're planning
on upgrading to 4.1 by migrating all ESX hosts to new hardware, in the
process installing ESX vSphere 4.1. Will have to keep the same host that
is running my vCenter, however.

I've read that my first step is upgrading vCenter, then the ESX hosts.
In my case, I imagine that to mean that - once vCenter is upgraded - I
can just add the new ESX hosts to the cluster (or to a different
cluster), and then just migrate the VMs from the old ESX 3.5 hosts to
the new ESX 4.1 hosts. Then remove the ESX 3.5 hosts.

But the new vCenter is 64bit only, and my current vCenter is 32bit. So
my first hurdle will be to backup up all pertinent info on my vCenter
server; wipe out Windows 32bit and install Win 2008 R2, then get vCenter
4.1 on there and restored.

1. Should I install vCenter 2.5, and restore all the info? And THEN
upgrade to vCenter 4.1?
2. Do I just install vCenter 4.1 and restore my 2.5 info, and in the
process have it upgrade the data to v4.1 format/schema?

#1 seems a bit problematical to me, unless I can install a 64bit vCenter
2.5. Doesn't make much sense to install a 32bit vCenter 2.5, just to
have to then upgrade to 64bit vCenter 4.1.

I'm reading the vSphere 4.1 Upgrade Guide
(<http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vsphere4/r41/vsp_41_upgrade_guide.pdf>), but
I'm not getting the guidance as to which process to do, and what
specific steps to take to accomplish it. (I may just be extra stupid
today and not getting it)

Advice? Anyone done this? And have a link to a set of steps?


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