This might be a paradigm shift and also depends on the number of physical hosts 
and VMs, but why not consider running vCenter on a VM? That reduces the need 
for a physical server to host it and also provides some flexibility if you also 
have DRS, HA, etc.

Jeff

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Subject: RE: Recommendation for new server (or two)


Nice to know - thanks!
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"Don Guyer" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote 
on 01/10/2011 09:37:34 AM:

> We have a quad-core blade handling both VCenter and CommVault. Our
> environment is 100+ VMs and about 4TB of data. There's not a lot of
> backups going on during the day when we are managing VMs, but we
> always try to over engineer servers a little, if possible.
>
> Don Guyer
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> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
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> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 10:19 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Recommendation for new server (or two)
>
>
> Greetings!
>
> I plan on continuing my search on this issue (as well as contacting
> the VMUser group forum), but as this group generally has somebody
> giving a quick AND USEFUL response, I thought I'd post here...
> =====
> Currently, we have an old PE-850 with one "Pentium III, 1.266 GHz"
> and 3 Gb RAM.  It runs two applications...
>
> UltraBac backup software (and it feeds a Quantum PX-502 tape library)
>
> VMware vCenter 2.5
>
> We are looking to replace the PX-502.  The library at which we are
> looking requires an external SAS port.  Given the nature of the
> slots on the PE ("regular", circa 2003 PCI slots), we've been told
> it is difficult to find a SAS adapter for these slots.  Consequently
> (and also due to its age), we are now server shopping.
>
> vCenter functions would be for management only.  However, we will
> need to go to VMWare products 4.1 and beyond (ESX would be on other
> host servers).
>
> Specific questions:
>
> 1. Would it be a mistake to continue to use a single server for both
> vCenter management and for running network-wide backups to the local
> tape library?  In other words, should we replace the PE-850 with two
> servers instead?
>
> 2. For the vCenter, what would be an "optimal minimum" for CPU?
> That is, how many cores in how many processors?  (That is, single
> quad, dual quad, single single core, etc)?
>
> We can't really "shoot the moon" on this as we do have a limited
> budget for this.  Thanks!
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