errr....
disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP  <-- we uncheck that box and do not add a WINs
server, then we join the domain.  AD2008r2 currently but we've done this for
a year now.

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
[email protected]> wrote:

> So, you specifically disable WINS on your client machines before joining
> them to the domain, correct?
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> www.eaglemds.com
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> From: Steven Peck [[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 12:15 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: WINS question
>
> We make sure that box is not checked as part of the build process.  Now
> that Exchange 2003 is mostly gone from our environments and Outlook clients
> are mostly 2007, we are starting to decom our WINs servers.
>
> Steven Peck
> http://www.blkmtn.org
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Really?
>
> I know about joining 2000/XP to an NT4 domain, but joining to a 2000 or
> later domain? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314366/EN-US
>
> By default, the setting is dependent upon how you have DHCP configured:
> (copied and pasted from the popup help information from WINS tab of network
> properties)
>
> *****
> Specifies that this network connection obtain the setting to enable or
> disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) from a Dynamic Host Configuration
> Protocol (DHCP) server. The enabling or disabling of NetBT through DHCP is
> provided with the value of the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) Microsoft
> vendor-specific DHCP option.
>
> When an IP address is automatically obtained, this option is selected by
> default so that this computer uses the NetBT setting as optionally provided
> by the DHCP server when this computer obtains an IP address and
> configuration lease. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT) DHCP option
> is provided by the DHCP server, the value of the option determines whether
> NetBT is enabled or disabled. If the Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP (NetBT)
> DHCP option is not provided by the DHCP server, NetBT is enabled.
>
> If you are manually configuring an IP address, selecting this option
> enables NetBT. This option is not available for dial-up connections.
> ******
>
> So, in essence, it is enabled. does that make it required to join to 2000
> or later domain that as no use or need for WINS?
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
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> From: Joe Tiedeman [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]
> >]
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:56 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: WINS question
>
> If you're going to join the server to active directory, don't disable
> NetBIOS until after you've done the join. If memory serves, it STILL uses
> NetBIOS in part of the joining procedure.
>
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> ________________________________
> From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:
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> Sent: 27 January 2011 14:46
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: WINS question
>
> If  "disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP" is selected on the WINS tab of the TCP/IP
> configuration of a client, and there are WINS servers specified, does the
> client register with the WINS server? Or does that bypass the registration
> process.  My thought is that the client still registers with the WINS
> server, it just stops using NetBIOS over TCP/IP, but a colleague disagrees
> with me on this.
>
> Thank you,
>
>
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