Thought I may be slipping in my old age.  :)

Sad thing is most places I've worked don't require encryption on the devices
because the address book can't be accessed when the phone is locked w/o
entereing the password...and the PHB's grumble.

As others have noted, it all comes down to physical access.

 - WJR


On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:36, Martin Blackstone <[email protected]>wrote:

> You are correct.  The device is not encrypted. Just the traffic.
>
>
>
> *From:* William Robbins [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:34 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes
>
>
>
> But that's just net traffic to and fro correct?  I thought we were
> discussing encryption on the device itself, which is not on by default.
>
>  - WJR
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:32, Martin Blackstone <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> All BB traffic is encrypted by default.
>
>
>
> *From:* William Robbins [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 10, 2011 9:31 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes
>
>
>
> The big  *if  *on Berry's is Encryption has to be turned on.  :)
>
>  - WJR
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:25, Paul Hutchings <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Normally I'd agree but what about devices such as Blackberry where they use
> AES encryption and if you enter the password X times incorrectly, it erases
> itself?
>
> I ask as Blackberry have some pretty decent government certification which
> suggests that unless you have some hefty resource at your disposal (i.e.
> agency or state) you're not likely to get far.
>
> (awaits the link showing how an encrypted and password protected blackberry
> has been compromised in 5 minutes)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: S Powell [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 10 February 2011 17:10
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes
>
> two words.
>
> remote wipe.
>
> Yep, big security issue, but if someone has physical control of your
> device, any device,  you should always consider it compromised.
>
>
>
>
> @THIS STATMENT IS VERIFIABLY INCORRECT
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 08:40, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote:
> > What I don't know is if this phone OS is any worse than anything else
> > in use. Anyone care to comment?:
> >
> >
> >
> > "Among passwords that could be revealed were those for Google Mail as
> > an MS Exchange account, other MS Exchange accounts, LDAP accounts,
> > voicemail, VPN passwords, WiFi passwords and some App passwords"
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9208920/IPhone_attack_reveals_p
> > asswords_in_six_minutes?taxonomyId=85
> >
> >
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