I have no prior knowledge Senator... -WJR
On Feb 10, 2011, at 15:17, "Michael B. Smith" <[email protected]> wrote: > It isn’t impressive. > > > > I’ve got 250 GB of Rainbow Tables. I am surely not the only one. > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael B. Smith > > Consultant and Exchange MVP > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > > > From: MMF [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:15 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes > > > > Sounds impressive. Mind telling us what software you are using? > > > > Murray > > > > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 3:09 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes > > Anything under 15 characters I can crack in under 5 minutes. > > > > Anything. > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael B. Smith > > Consultant and Exchange MVP > > http://TheEssentialExchange.com > > > > From: MMF [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 4:05 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes > > > > How about a nursery rhyme but use the first letter of each word. Example: > Hickory Dickery Dock The Mouse Ran Up The Clock would be: hddtmrutc. > > > > Murray > > > > From: William Robbins [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 12:52 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes > > +1 I use song lyrics also. > > - WJR > > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:49, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote: > > One method is to take acronyms from your favorite hobby and string them > together Example: NetBEUI CPU is 45GHz 14Kbps > > NetBEUICPUis45GHz14Kbps. 25 characters, upper and lower case and I’m going to > guess random enough. Surely acronym’s are different when it comes to a > dictionary attack? Need to change it? Flip the order of the acronyms. > > > > Personally I use a passphrase with correct punctuation – it gives upper case, > lower case, and special character. These becomes frustrating when you go to a > website that gives you something dumb like 12character maximum, in which case > use the hobby acronym’s. > > > > My $0.02 > > Dave > > > > From: Don Ely [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:29 AM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: IPhone attack reveals passwords in six minutes > > > > I must not be human... Most of my high security accounts have passwords of > 20+ random characters and I have them memorized... > > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Ben Scott <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Matthew W. Ross > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> If data is encrypted with strong crypto, and that crypto's secret > >> key is not stored on the device, then that data can generally be > >> considered safe even if the device is stolen. > >> > >> In English, that means if the security depends on a strong password > >> the user must enter (and not on some magic the manufacturer has > >> "hidden" inside the device), the password-protected data is safe. > > > > ... Isn't that only partially true? I mean, if the encrypted data is stolen, > > isn't it reasonable to believe it can be cracked given enough time/cpu > > power? > > You're basically correct. > > Given good algorithms and implementations, the strength of your > security depends on the strength of the key. If the password is an > English word, then yah, it's going to be straightforward to crack in > minutes or hours with a dictionary attack. If it's a a combination of > words and other characters, it's harder, but still within reason for > days, weeks, or months. Once you go to truly random characters, it's > dependent on the length. But even 10 characters might be crackable in > several years given commercially available technology. (I'm not up on > current predictions, so numbers may be off for times.) > > A truly random 256-bit symmetric key could theoretically be cracked > given enough time, but time to brute-force (given known technology) is > generally given in billions of years. It has been theorized that new > technology (especially "quantum computing") could drastically cut into > that, but it remains to be seen if such things are actually possible > or not. > > But 256 bits is a lot. Printable ASCII is roughly 96 characters. > That fits in roughly six and a half bits. So your passcode would need > to be around 40 characters long, and *completely* random (no words or > patterns), for it to be in that neighborhood. It's not realistic to > expect humans to do that. > > > -- Ben > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3434 - Release Date: 02/10/11 > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3434 - Release Date: 02/10/11 > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to [email protected] > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to [email protected] with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
