Whether right or wrong, this is still a good reason to not rely on the results provided by SpamCop.
Roger Wright ___ "The internet is a great way to get on the net." – Bob Dole On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Bill Songstad <[email protected]> wrote: > at one point yesterday it looked like about 80 gmail servers blacklisted by > spamcop. > > Nothing I write after here is verified. I gleened it off of discussion > lists and could be only partially based in reality: > > Apparently there is a pissing match about whether or not google should > include the original sender's ip in the header. Google apparently won't > (hot mail and yahoo apparently do) so spamcop says they have no choice but > to list the server ips. Otherwise they'd list the sender's. > > -Bill > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Kennedy, Jim > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Bingo. And in the original post he mentioned with spamcop turned on by >> itself it still did this. I just did some googling and it looks like over >> the last few weeks Spamcop has been listing some Google servers. >> >> >> >> From: Bill Songstad [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 3:22 PM >> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: RBL issues >> >> >> >> If only gmail is being blocked, I blame spamcop. If others are being >> blocked as well, I'm stumped. I'd start with looking at DNS. It could be >> that your local DNS is giving responses that vipre is interpreting as >> "listed". >> >> >> >> -Bill >> >> >> >> PS I got the red banner on my post too. Not sure why gmail is thinking >> I'm spoofing myself. I feel like me. >> >> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:13 PM, S Powell <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> the incoming mail that I was testing was coming _from_ gmail. >> Vipre seems to have been blocking it inbound. >> >> outbound email sent _from_ %internalDomain% was sending just fine. >> >> @THIS STATMENT IS VERIFIABLY INCORRECT >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:00, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote: >> > This is likely NOT a VIPRE issue. >> > >> > What it means is that your org has been blacklisted by someone. >> > >> > Time to do some detective work. >> > >> > Kurt >> > >> > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:42, S Powell <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> LOL.... REALLY????.... >> >> >> >> yes, logged into gmail via web.... https cert says mail.google.com >> >> issued by thawte... >> >> >> >> i've tried flushdns and restart the vipre PIM , restarting exchange >> >> transport. >> >> >> >> but RBL still blocks everything.... >> >> >> >> wonder if Google is mucking about.... >> >> >> >> >> >> @THIS STATMENT IS VERIFIABLY INCORRECT >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:39, Kurt Buff <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Gmail presents your email to me with a bright red banner, with the >> >>> following text in it: >> >>> >> >>> Warning: This message may not be from whom it claims to be. Beware of >> >>> following any links in it or of providing the sender with any personal >> >>> information. >> >>> >> >>> Something is definitely wrong. >> >>> >> >>> Kurt >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 09:55, Bill Songstad <[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> I've had problems with spamhaus hating my DNS proxy on my watchguard >> >>>> firewall. Had to turn off the proxy. Another issue I had recently >> >>>> with >> >>>> spamhaus is that public DNS servers like 8.8.8.8 and 4.4.2.2 don't >> >>>> work. >> >>>> But that should actually allow all traffic, so forget that I guess. >> >>>> >> >>>> By everything do you mean EVERYTHING? I was seeing the same NDRs for >> >>>> many >> >>>> Gmail clients earlier this week because about 80 gmail servers are >> >>>> blacklisted by spamcop. But non gmail traffic gets in fine. >> >>>> >> >>>> -Bill >> >>>> >> >>>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Kennedy, Jim >> >>>> <[email protected]> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Trying to resolve the spamhaus.org zones to an A record will not >> >>>>> work, it >> >>>>> is a defensive measure against DoS attacks. So that test is a red >> >>>>> herring >> >>>>> and you can ignore that. Beyond that I have nothing to add, we don't >> >>>>> use >> >>>>> Vipre. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >> >>>>> From: S Powell [mailto:[email protected]] >> >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 11:37 AM >> >>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >> >>>>> Subject: RBL issues >> >>>>> >> >>>>> After restarting exchange yesterday, and installing updates; Vipre >> >>>>> has >> >>>>> been blocking everything. This it the message--> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> "The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 5.7.1 Message >> >>>>> rejected because of RBL policy (state 13)." >> >>>>> >> >>>>> okay. we had the RBL in place before, and I didn't change anything >> >>>>> on the >> >>>>> server other than installing updates and restarting. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> nslookup from the exchange server works for most domains HOWEVER >> >>>>> spamhaus.org does not resolve, but spamcop does. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> removing spamhaus from the RBL list and only using spamcop gives me >> >>>>> the >> >>>>> same result. everything is blocked. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> With the RBL turned off, everything works. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> thoughts on why this is? 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