Thanks Andrew, I am already trialling the d2d and dedupe with Commvault
(our current product).  

 

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not suggesting I'm dealing with
flat-earther's and they aren't suggesting "don't' do it", I just found
it a bit of an odd stance how they seemed inherantly distrusting of
dedupe "because it's a database" whilst no-one questions the numbers in
a financial system that is held in a database, or if they do, the
assumption is the input or the formulae are wrong, nobody ever questions
if the database has stuffed up and randomized a value etc.

 

I'll happily admit myself that I'd still want to take traditional full's
every so often rather than rely on a single full and then "incremental
forever", and I'd still be looking to spool the deduped backups to
non-deduped tape.

 

Paul



From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 16 February 2011 12:07
To: NT System Admin Issues
Cc: Paul Hutchings
Subject: Re: Dedupe - Do you trust it?

 

The basic concepts of data deduplication is used in a lot of places, not
the least of which are compression algorithms, data encryption, WAN
optimization, etc.

 

I think that the technology is mature, and that there's a lot of impetus
to do it right, in general.

 

Unless they're going to suggest that they don't trust ANY data in
non-native format, they'll have to concede that they accept all sorts of
data abstraction for other reasons on a regular basis.

 

This one saves both time and disk space.

 

You should speak to your favorite vendor in this space and get a pilot,
so you can see/smell/feel it in action for yourself.


 

ASB (Find me online via About.Me <http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio> ) 
Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...

 





On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 6:30 AM, Paul Hutchings
<[email protected]> wrote:

Just having a discussion with my boss and a colleague about backup
strategy.

 

They're a little mistrusting of dedupe on the basis "It's a database it
can go wrong", to which my retort was largely a combination of having to
have faith in an established vendor, combined with "If a database gives
you a value you assume it's correct, you don't think "what if the
database has corrupted the value" because you have faith in the checks
and balances that ensure the data is atomic".

 

So, what are you views on dedupe when it comes to backups?

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