Now I want to move on too !
________________________________ From: Jonathan <[email protected]> To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 11:13:39 PM Subject: Re: Today is the end of the line for me, +100 Wow. I wish I had read that a LONG time ago. On a positive note, I AM moving on, and quite excited about it. Hang in there Z! Jonathan - Thumb typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) on the Verizon network. On Feb 17, 2011 9:31 PM, "Andrew S. Baker" <[email protected]> wrote: > Excellent article > > -ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker > > Sent from my Motorola Droid > On Feb 17, 2011 8:28 PM, "Jonathan Link" <[email protected]> wrote: >> This may be appropriate to your mood. >> http://www.asktheheadhunter.com/hawall.htm >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Ziots, Edward <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >>> I think after this day I have come to the conclusion is time to move on, >>> if there is companies in the RI/MASS/CT area looking for a security >>> engineer, please contact me at the email below. If the distance is under >>> 1.5 hrs I am game. >>> >>> Z >>> >>> Edward E. Ziots >>> CISSP, Network +, Security + >>> Network Engineer >>> Lifespan Organization >>> Email:[email protected] >>> Cell:401-639-3505 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:50 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: RE: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend >>> >>> Every SBS site I manage has two servers just to offload some of that >>> (that, and have redundant DC's). In some cases the "server" is a >>> desktop, but it keeps that much less activity off the SBS server. AV and >>> WSUS, that's what an older desktop is good for :-). >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 11:46 AM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend >>> >>> I think some of the issues have to do with smaller installations. We >>> have several clients that install the A/V server software on an SBS >>> server...and Trend can bog it down with the smart scan features enabled. >>> >>> >>> Jonathan wrote: >>> > Very interesting.... >>> > >>> > We switched from McAfee to Trend a year ago. Between 500 and 600 >>> > nodes, including servers, and we have not experienced problems like >>> > what some of you have described...we are controlling updates from our >>> > own internal server, and we are not utilizing Trend's cloudy offering. >>> > [1] >>> > >>> > We've been *very* happy. (of course we did come from McAfee, so I >>> > guess everything is relative.) :-) >>> > >>> > Jonathan >>> > >>> > [1] cloudy, get it? I crack myself up.... (I can ear the roans and >>> > eyerolls now...) >>> > >>> > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:25 PM, David Lum <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Excellent to be aware of, thanks guys. %dayjob% environment is >>> infinitely >>> >> more complex than my client of 55 seats. What AV do you recommend? >>> Vipre is >>> >> on the list, as is Symantec (beyond my control). Trend was the third >>> but I >>> >> am open to nixing them in favor of something else. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> %dayjob% = 450+ seats with dozens (50+) remote workers that work from >>> home, >>> >> multiple SAN's, couple hundred servers, blah blah blah... >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Dave >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[email protected]] >>> >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:16 AM >>> >> >>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> >> Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Yeh happened all over apart from on the sites, that had brand new >>> over >>> >> specced servers, with brand new fast PC's with an abundance of memory >>> but >>> >> even they exhibited a measurable slowdown. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I personally do not like any software package that at 850MB when >>> downloaded >>> >> expands to take up 8.5GB on the server within 4 days. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> And the supports advise is to switch off the new features, and leave >>> you >>> >> with the functionality of the old version, but doesn't improve >>> performance. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> It also seriously corrupted a DFS share, and database on one site, >>> again >>> >> there are technet articles and such that state that Trend needs to be >>> >> disabled from scanning DFS databases and shares, but that was only >>> after teh >>> >> damage was done. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Version 4 -5 issues on upgrade, and a rapid release of 5.1 to solve >>> them. 5 >>> >> - 6 serious issues on upgrade, no fix, even 6.1 didnt solve the >>> problems. >>> >> The only fix was complete removal, and replace with a different >>> product. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> I have raised the issues with Trend, and told them we were stopping >>> selling >>> >> their product, and would only continue renewing existing licenses who >>> wanted >>> >> to stay with Trend, and nothing was done. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> They keep phoning every couple of months, to see why were not selling >>> and I >>> >> keep telling them, but they never respond, until its chase sales >>> figures >>> >> time. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> YMMV but they have seriously burnt my birdges, and indirectly cost my >>> >> company money, in fixing issues caused by their software. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 17 February 2011 17:07, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Weird, no issue in the environment I support when I upgraded them. >>> Small >>> >> environment though, 55 systems, fairly "clean" clients and just two >>> sites. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Dave >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:[email protected]] >>> >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:49 AM >>> >> >>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> >> >>> >> Cc: Steven Peck >>> >> Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Would avoid Tren Worry Free like the plague. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> It killed (literally stopped servers and clients talking, due to scan >>> >> overload, and resource hogging) 4 networks when it was upgraded from >>> 5 to 6, >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Had to remove it and install vipre which made very angry clients very >>> happy >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Graeme >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 17 February 2011 16:44, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Here we go >>> >> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-01-07/ >>> >> >>> >> Steven Peck >>> >> http://www.blkmtn.org >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Mike Gill >>> <[email protected]> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Bla bla, our def files are I the cloud, bla bla, something about >>> >> virtualization density, bla bla cloud, bla bla bla. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Of the different AV product I have worked with, all of them allow for >>> an >>> >> alternate server location for def updates if a local store isn't >>> available. >>> >> I'm not sure what they're trying to sell, but they like saying cloud >>> over >>> >> and over. J >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Mike Gill >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> From: David Lum [mailto:[email protected]] >>> >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:02 AM >>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> >> Subject: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> It's 3:43 long. Their WorryFree product does this as well and seems >>> to work >>> >> OK at the client of 55 machines that has it (it gives you the option >>> to >>> >> update from the local Trend machine or from Trend's servers). >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Seems to me they're using "cloud" to mean "clients update from us and >>> not >>> >> your local server". 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