You are absolutely correct we are using LAMP, Apache, MySQL, PHP. I was
playing around with WAMP for a while but could not get it to work and
finally gave up and went to CentOS.

Interesting our new website is being developed in Drupal (not the e-commerce
site) and I like what I see so far.



Yes thanks for the advice, I will definitely get the needed info from the
developer.


SJ

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote:

> At a guess you are getting some LAMP based app.
>
> I am going to take some liberal guesses here.  At a high level you most
> likely has some web based front end, a script language, a database and
> certificates for SSL.  Most web based front ends can have something that
> just copies the files.  Make sure you identify the configuration file which
> contains the database pointers and accounts as it generally is where issues
> occur.  These scripts are generally static so once you have them secure it's
> not all that annoyuing to replace them on a different ssytem.  There are any
> number of tools to dump the database to flat file (MySQL / PostGRE being the
> most popular databases for this).  Then that database backup should end up
> somewhere.
>
> Being able to grab this stuff will help with building out a test site
> elsewhere for future development and testing upgrades of... OS, scripting
> language (php, perl, python, etc) database, web server (Apache).....  :)
>
> In general this stuff is fairly simple once you have a documented handle on
> it.  Developers tend to neglect this aspect.  One of your hopes is that they
> are building this off of an available toolkit or CMS. If they are, then
> someone should be on that tool kits security alert list, especially
> considering eCommerce and your companies reputation.  I spent a lot of years
> in the Drupal community building out this awareness with the developers and
> documentation so am familiar with the slight learning curve you see yourself
> in front of.  It's not that bad but make them do the work of documenting the
> app and it will make your life significantly easier.
>
> Have fun.
>
>
> Steven Peck
> http://www.blkmtn.org
>
>
>
>
>  On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Stefan Jafs <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>  Point, well taken, sometimes you are too close to the issue and don't
>> think clearly.
>>
>> Obviously it should (will be) part of the acceptance of the software to
>> document a proper backup procedure.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for pointing it out.
>>
>>   On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Steven Peck <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Why does the the developer get to dictate... oh never mind.
>>>
>>> Tell the developer that you need a backup/restore plan as part of the
>>> turn over to production and have such documentation be added to the scope of
>>> work for (his buddy :) the consultant along with an actual test of the
>>> backup restore plan.
>>>
>>> Don't try and blindly design the plan yourself, make the people who put
>>> you in the corner responsible for deliverable along with you.  You are also
>>> going to need a plan for updating CentOS in a manner that won't break your
>>> application too so I'd get that documentation as well while you're at it.
>>> Despite many myths, Linux has security and software updates as well.
>>>
>>> As to the VMware backup being enough?  Might be, but how will you know
>>> without a documented backup/restore plan of the application itself?
>>>
>>> Steven Peck
>>> http://www.blkmtn.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Stefan Jafs <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, I’m venturing into the big unknown  . . . . . . . world of Linux
>>>> and the reason is, we are setting up an e-commerce site and the developer
>>>> insists on using Linux for the webserver. So I hired a consultant and had
>>>> the server up and running in an afternoon and they are now loading the web
>>>> software as we speak.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So my question is about backup. I’m running this in VMware 4.0 and my
>>>> backup Software is BackupExec 2010 R2. I have the Agent for VMware
>>>> infrastructure and can back up the VM that way, just did it and it worked.
>>>>
>>>> Now my question is would this snapshot backup be sufficient or should I
>>>> get the Agent for Linux and be able to do an GRT backup?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What are your suggestions?
>>>>
>>>>
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