I'd do a cursory check of the contents of the zone you're going to delete and 
make sure someone didn't hack something by putting a record in with a different 
IP than it's defined as in the real zone. 

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[email protected]

c   - 312.731.3132


-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 6:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Domain trust question

Yep.  That's what I was leaning towards, but was nervous to delete a zone I 
didn't create.  Thank you for the verification, and the patience.  The 
conditional forwarders have now been created, without issue.

>>> Brian Desmond <[email protected]> 3/10/2011 3:57 PM >>>
OK:

So on the DCs (all of them) for GEO:

--> Delete the ad.company.com zone
--> Create a conditional forwarder for ad.company.com pointing to the 
--> AD.company.com DCs

So on a DC (one of them) for AD:

--> Create an AD integrated conditional forwarder for geo.company.com 
--> pointing to the geo.company.com DCs

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[email protected] 

c   - 312.731.3132


-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 5:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Domain trust question

Ok, so it sounds like I'm getting myself confused.  And, right after I 
speed-replied (sorry...) I poked around and saw that SoA is not something that 
can be edited for the secondary zone.

So, back to my original issue, if you don't mind:

How it is setup now (I didn't do the initial setup, just trying to get it 
working so I can do the trust)

geo.company.com has multiple forward lookup zones.  One of them, is a 
AD-integrated, primary zone, for the AD.company.com domain.  Same goes the 
other way for AD.company.com.

When I try to setup a conditional forwarder, in either direction, and I put in 
the IP address of the DNS server in the other domain, I get a red X by the IP, 
and under the Validated column, I get the message: "The server with this IP is 
not authoritative for the required zone."

I'd rather do the conditional forwarder, as from what I've been reading, it is 
supposed to be much easier to setup, and I don't anticipate much change in name 
servers...

>>> Brian Desmond <[email protected]> 3/10/2011 2:57 PM >>>
No. The SOA record points to the Primary DNS Server for the zone. In the case 
of AD Integrated DNS, there's some special tweaks inside the DNS service such 
that the SOA record always returns the responding DC.

Secondary zones are purely copies of the zone. You can't change anything in 
them including the SOA record.

Thus far what I've read is mutually exclusive. You either do conditional 
forwarders or secondary zones, not both.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[email protected] 

c   - 312.731.3132


-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Domain trust question

And the SoA should be the DNS server from the other domain, right?  i.e. in 
geo.company.com, I setup a secondary zone for AD.company.com.  The SoA for that 
should be the nameserver in AD.company.com?

>>> Brian Desmond <[email protected]> 3/10/2011 2:40 PM >>>
The primary zone for each domain should live inside THAT domain's forest. 

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[email protected] 

c   - 312.731.3132


-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Domain trust question

Ok, so here's my current situation:

2 domains, ad.company.com, and geo.company.com.  AD.company.com is at 2008R2 
functional level, both for domain and forest.  geo.company.com is at 2003 
functional level, both for domain and forest.

In DNS for each domain, there are AD-Integrated primary forward lookup zones 
for the other domain.  When I try to add a conditional forwarder, I get this 
message "The server with this IP is not authoritative for the required zone."

Did we mess up by making the zones primary, vs. secondary, or is there some 
other issue?

>>> Brian Desmond <[email protected]> 3/10/2011 10:40 AM >>>
Forest trust will enable Kerb across the trust and UPN routing, but otherwise 
given two single domain forests it's pretty much functionally identical.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[email protected] 

c   - 312.731.3132


-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Domain trust question

We currently have a Windows domain which we're using as an applications domain. 
 All of our network login/authentication is done through our Novell domain.  
Our current domain is at a Windows Server 2003 functional level, both for the 
domain and forest.  We are in the midst of planning a migration away from 
Novell, and into a new forest/domain that we've set up, which is at a 2008 R2 
functional level, for both forest and domain.  We want to setup a one-way trust 
between the two domains, so that users from the 2008 R2 domain will be able to 
access resources in the 2003 domain.

My question:

Would it be best practices in this case to create a forest trust?  Or would I 
use some other type of trust?



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