There you go, always bringing "Class" into it...

"Crawford, Scott" <[email protected]> wrote on 03/17/2011 01:44:57 PM:

> I thought we were an autonomous collective.
> 
> From: John Cook [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 1:41 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: [OT] Obama birth certificate
> 
> Yeah, we?re a Republic, just like in Star Wars!
> 
> From: Steven Peck [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 2:32 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: [OT] Obama birth certificate
> 
> We're not that differnet.  It's just some of the government lines of
> authority in the US are different from the lines in other countries.
> Some evolved as a result of how various territories came to become 
> states and the concerns of the constitution committees.  And we're a
> Republic not one of your fancy high falutin Federations. :)
> 
> Steven Peck
> http://www.blkmtn.org
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Miguel Gonzalez 
<[email protected]
> > wrote:
> And the point is? :-)
> 
> Sorry guys but I don't think that the US is that different to other 
> federal countries. I'm coming from a federal country myself (Spain) 
> and there are many other federal countries (and co-federal like 
> Switzerland) in the world. That means that every region, lander or 
> state (choose your name) can have different laws. But they can't 
> never be against the constitution. Every federal country has a Court
> for watching if any new law can be the constitutional rights.
> 
> What the US constitution is saying is that that there is a 
> difference between having an US passport (second class) and having 
> it and being born in the US (first class).That was my point.
> 
> The fact that you can be a governor (or not) but not an US president
> was irrelevant but just a curiosity :)
> 
> Miguel
> 
> 
> 
> --- El jue, 17/3/11, Kennedy, Jim <[email protected]> 
escribió:
> 
> > De: Kennedy, Jim <[email protected]>
> > Asunto: RE: [OT] Obama birth certificate
> > Para: "NT System Admin Issues" <[email protected]>
> > Fecha: jueves, 17 de marzo, 2011 14:01
> >
> > I think it points more towards the autonomy of the States.
> > For many things, the States can do as they wish. The US born
> > requirement for our President was part of our founding
> > Constitution.  Another part of that Constitution
> > delegates a great deal of self-rule to the individual
> > States. As they became States they were able to decide that
> > issue for themselves. Even now if a State wanted to require
> > you to be US born to be a governor they certainly could pass
> > a State Constitutional amendment to do so.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:[email protected]]
> >
> >
> >
> > It's quite curious that you can be a governor of a State
> > not being born in the US but you can't elect that person as
> > US president. This states clear that there are first and
> > second class US passports.
> >
> > Miguel
> >
> >
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