Get to know your enemy: do you have older records in the company that show
what passwords your developer used at that time, and in this case give you a
hint on what he might have used for your db?

Could be faster than any other (more serious) method.
My 2c.

Roberto Grippi


2011/6/10 James Rankin <[email protected]>

> Tried that, do File | Get External Data | Import, select the old 97 db, and
> it bombs with "operation invalid without a current index". It then offers me
> an Import Objects dialog, which is completely empty. Sounds like not only is
> this ancient, it may well be damaged or erroneous too. When I try to "Repair
> Database" from 97, it tells me there is an index problem. My day just keeps
> getting better :-(
>
>
> On 10 June 2011 13:07, Tony Patton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Bit of a long shot, but have you tried importing everything into a new
>> database in Access 2000?
>>
>> It's been a long time since I came across this.
>>
>> T
>>
>> Typed slowly on HTC Desire
>> On 10 Jun 2011 13:02, "James Rankin" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I have, I've cleared the password for the user Admin which is the db
>> owner,
>> > yet still, when I go to convert, I get the permissions error. I hope
>> this
>> > developer hasn't done something crafty to block the conversion.
>> >
>> > On 10 June 2011 12:59, Jonathan Link <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> But perhaps, under 97 you can go in and turn off all the passwords...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:56 AM, James Rankin <[email protected]
>> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Yes, I can open it in Access 97, but I am damned if I am sequencing up
>> an
>> >>> Office 97 app to run on our Windows 2008 R2 systems.
>> >>>
>> >>> I need to convert it to, at the very least, Access 2000 for it to be
>> in
>> >>> any way supportable, and even then it would only have to be for a
>> short
>> >>> period. Longer term we need to look to get this data put somewhere
>> >>> completely different, but that's a whole different battle.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 10 June 2011 12:46, Manuel Santos <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Can’t you find a machine with Access 97 installed?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:[email protected]]
>> >>>> *Sent:* sexta-feira, 10 de Junho de 2011 12:16
>> >>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: Access form password
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Note the use of the word "drafting"
>> >>>>
>> >>>> When I cool off a bit I'll probably tone it down nicely :-)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I still can't get this blasted thing converted. I tried running
>> Access
>> >>>> 2000 using the command line with the /convert switch and specifying
>> the
>> >>>> "Admin" username, but it just pops up a "Logon" box and rejects my
>> >>>> credentials every time
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 10 June 2011 12:05, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Be thankful he was stuck using an older version of Access.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Anyway, you're not out of the woods yet...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Oh, and a snotty email isn't really going to help your cause here.
>> Rather, send out a memo that indicates that you would like a meeting to
>> discuss and uncover any other apps that are being used so you can ensure
>> that they are backed up and supportable. You won't have to make any direct
>> references to this incident, which helps people save face and makes them far
>> more likely to cooperate with you.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> *ASB *(Professional Bio <http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio>)
>> >>>> *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...*
>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 6:17 AM, James Rankin <[email protected]
>> >
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Well I never - we have managed to dig the password out of it. The
>> >>>> developer clearly wasn't as clever as he thought....
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Now onto the next issue - whenever I try and open this database in a
>> >>>> later version of Access, it tells me this
>> >>>>
>> >>>> [image: 3.jpg]
>> >>>> Anyone have any ideas how to get around this bit?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 10 June 2011 11:03, James Rankin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately that tool just, like many
>> >>>> others, tells me the database isn't password protected. It isn't, per
>> se.
>> >>>> You can open the database, where you are met with this
>> >>>>
>> >>>> [image: menu.jpg]
>> >>>>
>> >>>> When you fail to get the right password for admin, this appears
>> >>>>
>> >>>> [image: password.jpg]
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Needless to say, I can't get into Design view - the database just
>> closes
>> >>>> automatically.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> This is very annoying, and I'm hoping the powers-that-be start taking
>> >>>> notice of their serious lack of process and procedure which allows
>> things
>> >>>> like this to swim up and bite me on the ass.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Grrr
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 10 June 2011 10:48, Manuel Santos <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> As far as I remember, I once had a problem like that, and wasn't able
>> to
>> >>>> access some data on Access 97 database, and I used a tool to crack
>> the
>> >>>> password: http://www.rixler.com/eng/access_password_recovery.htm
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2011/6/10 James Rankin <[email protected]>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Another day, another episode of "I can't believe this has been
>> allowed to
>> >>>> happen" - yet here I am.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We have a department that (unknown to me until today) are reliant on
>> a
>> >>>> database that was built (and still runs in!) Access 97. Yes, you
>> heard me
>> >>>> right. I mean, it only went out of extended support in February 2002,
>> what's
>> >>>> nearly ten years of unsupported software between friends?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> However (the plot thickens) it was built and maintained by a
>> developer
>> >>>> who has now left the company. And it needs some administration doing
>> to it.
>> >>>> And it turns out that the form to administer the database is
>> >>>> password-protected. And not surprisingly, as with all problems that
>> seem to
>> >>>> have defeated everyone else, it is now sitting in my lap. The
>> developer
>> >>>> can't be contacted - believe me, short of commissioning a private
>> >>>> investigator, I have tried all I can.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The question is - does anyone know any way I could reveal or reset
>> the
>> >>>> password that is protecting the admin form? It's that long since I
>> used any
>> >>>> form of Access (never mind a 14-year old version of it!) that I am
>> >>>> completely clueless here.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm already drafting up a snotty email to go to the business heads
>> here
>> >>>> about the importance of migrating their critical data onto supported
>> >>>> platforms, so hopefully something like this should never happen again
>> (yes,
>> >>>> it probably will, though). But if anyone can think of any way I can
>> get
>> >>>> inside the guts of this ancient database, I sure would be grateful.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
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