On 6/23/2011 9:53 AM, John Cook wrote:
> I believe you can export the permissions to a spreadsheet, would that not 
> suffice?

How so? That would show the permissions, but wouldn't allow them to copy
the files onto their drive, which is what they want to do. They want the
files without the modification date changed, but with them having access
to read through them. And I am having a problem doing both - I can make
the files readable by them, or I can give them the files without the
modification date changed but unreadable by them ...

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Leone [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:38 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Seizing ownership changes modification date, and that is bad ...
> 
> On 6/23/2011 9:30 AM, Guyer, Don wrote:
>> Explain this to them clearly (beforehand) so they can agree to a
>> solution that both works for you and them.
> 
> We did tell them that. Before we did it. And after we did it. And again
> this morning when they emailed us and said "Hey, we need to do this
> again, because the modification date changed".
> 
> But they're still asking ... I'd love to just give them a tape of the
> folders, and let them figure out how to do it ...
> 
>>
>> Maybe a screen shot of the properties before/after seizing, etc, etc.
>>
>> Don Guyer
>> Windows Systems Engineer
>> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
>> Enterprise Technology Group
>> Fiserv
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>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mike Leone [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:29 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Seizing ownership changes modification date, and that is bad
>> ...
>>
>> In the course of a lawsuit, I need to provide copies of some user home
>> folders. These folders are set so that the user in question is the
>> owner, and no one else has access on the NTFS permissions. (it's a home
>> folder, after all). So the problem comes in when I do a restore of these
>> folders to a new location for the lawyers. They want to copy the files
>> onto a portable hard drive they bring with them. Of course, in order to
>> do this, I have to seize ownership and put my account on the security,
>> else I can't read the files at all (the folders are set to not inherit
>> permissions).
>>
>> This changes the modification date to the date I do the seizing, and
>> that upsets the lawyers.
>>
>> And I can't really think of a way around that. I can't change the
>> original folder security, and my backup program (EMC Networker) doesn't
>> have an option to restore without Windows security. And the lawyers
>> don't want the tape with the backup on it - they have to have it on
>> their external drive.
>>
>> I can't think of a way they can copy the folders to their external drive
>> that doesn't include me seizing ownership and therefore screwing up the
>> modification date.
>>
>> Anyone?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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