Back to the question though about ctrl+c defaulting to values :)
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From: Deke Kincaid <dekekinc...@gmail.com>
To: Nuke user discussion <nuke-users@support.thefoundry.co.uk>
Sent: Sat, 12 March, 2011 8:18:40
Subject: Re: [Nuke-users] Roto - Copy values over animation
+2, Yup agreed.
I always found the jack in all tools finicky and too sensitive (skews too
easily
and wigs out at the slightest wrong grab). Yes the bounding box needs more
fine
tuning on its controls but I take the bounding box any day over the jack.
-deke
On Mar 11, 2011, at 18:08, J Bills <jbillsn...@flickfx.com> wrote:
same - big fan of the bbox.
>
>helps visualize scale and rotation changes, esp handy when working with
>subsets
>of points as opposed to whole shape. yes, more visual feedback but it's info
>I
>want. a jack alone isn't useful for anything but global changes, where it's a
>given that you're working with all points.
>
>
>On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Howard Jones <mrhowardjo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Couldn't agree less - sorry
>>H
>>
>>
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From: Tom Piedmont <t...@luma-pictures.com>
>>To: Nuke user discussion <nuke-users@support.thefoundry.co.uk>
>>Sent: Fri, 11 March, 2011 23:46:36
>>
>>Subject: Re: [Nuke-users] Roto - Copy values over animation
>>
>>
>>Deke Kincaid wrote:
>>> What is wrong with the bounding box?
>>
>>At best the bounding box is visual clutter and poor interface design,
>>hindering more than it helps with precision roto.
>>
>>The jack was an innovative interface design and being inside the roto
>>shape did not visually interfere with bezier edges when it comes to
>>precise positioning. The simplicity and eleagance of the jack's
>>controls are sublime grace compared to the bounding box's... awkward,
>>clunky, outmoded design ethos.
>>
>>> Just select on the transform tab
>>> and you get the OSC like the old b
>>Thanks for the tip, but it's not quite the same. One instantly
>>noticeable difference: Ctrl drag on the jack's handle and you rotate
>>the jack relative to the shape (very useful). Do the same on the
>>transform tab version as you suggest and you skew the bezier shape. If
>>you want to skew the Jack bezier, you shift drag on any of the shorter
>>handles. To rotate the bounding box relative to the shape (for scaling
>>purposes for example) you have to rotate the shape to the angle you
>>want, deselect and reselect, then scale as needed.
>>
>>Bounding box loses on all fronts.
>>
>>Which is not to say that, overall, the new paint roto node is not better
>>than olden days. It is, overall, better. However the loss of the Jack
>>is too significant to ignore.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> -deke
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 15:13, Tom Piedmont <t...@luma-pictures.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Heavy roto work demands ctrl+C go back to it's former function of copying
>>>> point values.
>>>>
>>>> Replacing the Jack with a bounding box was another ... poor ... move on
>>>> Foundry's part.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Howard Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On this subject then and for a straw pole - would anybody be upset if the
>>>>> ctrl+c in a roto(paint) node was set to copy the shape's point values
>>rather
>>>>> than animation? Or conversely would people be happy if changed
>>>>>
>>>>> The idea here is you could select a shape/points on a shape, ctrl+C move
>>>>> down the timeline, ctrl+V and the shape's point values are pasted. (assume
>>>>> there are a few inbetween keyframes of differing values)
>>>>>
>>>>> Depending on consensus I'll add a feature request,
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers
>>>>> Howard
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* Wouter Klouwen <wou...@thefoundry.co.uk>
>>>>> *To:* nuke-users@support.thefoundry.co.uk
>>>>> *Sent:* Fri, 11 March, 2011 15:23:26
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Nuke-users] Roto - Copy values over animation
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/03/2011 13:36, Howard Jones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a way to access the right click menu in rotopaint.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Become a Nuke developer. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> (IOW, no.)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to assign the ctrl+c to copy point or spline values rather than
>>>>>> animation as it defaults to, and I'm not sure what menu to change
>>>>>>
>>>>> Please file a feature request with support.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Wouter Klouwen, Software Engineer
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