Going back to the origin of this discussion, it really doesn’t matter one way 
or another... the reason the tracking software asks for the film back is so it 
can calculate the equivalent "cropped" focal length and thus an accurate field 
of view. Unless the process has changed significantly in the last two years, 
you shouldn’t ever have to include crop factor in your parameters when solving 
for a camera.

-Nathan



From: Diogo Girondi 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:47 PM
To: Nuke user discussion 
Subject: Re: [Nuke-users] Arri Alexa sensor size - camera tracking question

I'm not familiar with Nikon lenses, but Canon ones even if designed for APS-C 
sensors are still named disregarding any compensation for crop factors. 
Personally I never heard of lenses that state their focal lengths compensated 
by a certain crop factor since that tends to vary from camera to camera and 
it's not a characteristic of the lens it self. 

Canon EF-S lenses are a good example of this, they are designed to only mount 
on EF mounts of bodies with APS-C sensors (1.6x crop factor) but their focal 
lengths are still stated "1:1" taking a full frame if you will as base, so you 
still have to multiply their focal lengths by 1.6. My EF-S 10-22mm for instance 
when mounted on my 7D is becomes a 16-35mm and not the 10-22mm written on the 
lens. 




On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Howard Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

        The crop factor was based on the original question. Not my maths. A 100 
mm lens on cropped back will give an equivalent lens angle (not actual) of a 
longer lens, with the original question this was 1.5. 

        You are both agreeing with by stating the film back size gives a 
different fov (but not focal length - agreed)

        However, 
        1. If you can't get a 100mm lens that is designed for a crop film back, 
ie compensates for the sensor size, then you are correct that in this case the 
focal length is the same, regardless of sensor size, however the fov is 
different. 

        However if you can buy a lens that has compensated for the sensor size 
and gives the same fov as a 35mm lens then there is a discrepancy. 

        I'm under the (mis)understanding that the latter is available, however 
I can quite believe I'm mistaken. 

        2. We are all assuming nuke behaves correctly in this fashion. In the 
back of my mind, if you put the focal length into the camera tracker and then 
change the film back, it changes the focal length, but you can then change it 
back. 

        I can't check this last point until tomorrow, but if it's the case then 
what does this mean for the solve? If its not the case then it's because I'm 
getting on and the mind plays tricks. 

        Cheers
        H 

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