Actually, scratch that, ACES linear followed by rec709>linear in Nuke doesn't look like anything I see in RawViewer in terms of saturation. The gamma looks reasonable though.

Any more hints?

Cheers,
frank


On 3/4/14, 8:47 AM, Frank Rueter wrote:
>>The conversion in Sony's RAW Viewer was done using the Color set to ACES, Viewer Settings to RRTODT_sRGB (v011 at that time), export format set >>to OpenEXR 16bit and the Bake option set to ACES/Linear. Nothing esoteric.

That's what I did, but when you set to ACES linear, the ODT and all other input parameters in RawViewer are ignored (and so it should be).

>>Once you apply a Rec.709 RRT
If I convert the "ACES linear" exr using a rec709>linear ColoSpace node, it does look closer to what we are after. But that can't possibly mean the exrs are actually in a linear scene referred space. Or am I completely barking up the wrong tree here and "ACES linear" in this case does not meant scene referred but "raw", and raw + rec709 RRT (i.e. file colour space in Nuke) gives me scene referred linear?

Cheers,
frank

On 3/3/14, 8:27 PM, Diogo Girondi wrote:
Hey Frank,

We had a F65 ACES project last year and after a few tests with Colorworks to match our pipeline (DaVinci) to theirs (Baselight), we went with Sony's RAW Viewer for the conversion because DaVinci was yielding a saturation shift on the reds in the conversion that didn't happen in Baselight. After some digging we concluded that DaVinci was using an old IDT that wasn't recommended by Sony, so we stuck with RAW Viewer which was using the same IDT present in Baselight.

The conversion in Sony's RAW Viewer was done using the Color set to ACES, Viewer Settings to RRTODT_sRGB (v011 at that time), export format set to OpenEXR 16bit and the Bake option set to ACES/Linear. Nothing esoteric.

Perhaps this low saturation you're seeing is due to the F65 gamut to ACES gamut. Because for what I remember the converted files did look duller than linear files with a smaller source gamut once you look at them in their linear form.

Once you apply a Rec.709 RRT does the saturation look "normal" or "match" the same material converted to Rec.709 in the RAW Viewer directly?


Cheers,
Diogo







On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Frank Rueter <fr...@beingfrank.info <mailto:fr...@beingfrank.info>> wrote:

    Hi all,

    has anybody got experience with transcoding Sony' MXF files
    (coming from the F65) to proper ACES linear exrs?
    When I try (using Sony's RawViewer), I get very flat colour
    separation, i.e. very low saturation, which certainly does not
    seem right in scene referred linear space, which I thought ACES
    linear is all about.

    Has anybody had similar problems (and maybe solutions)?

    Cheers,
    frank
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