What? Me? huh? Yeah. I'm just saying that someone built a pipeline for a reason and in an email from a VFX side guy we don't have clue one what the post houses reason is. Might be valid with some esoteric weird reason. I mean company 3 where about the biggest not doing color right people I ever dealt with circa 2008-2009. Think anything we told them they cared $.02 about? We just gave them whatever color weird world files. in the end it was all ok, acceptable ish and not worth the fight. :-)
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Little http://www.rslittle.com/ http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/ On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 12:53 AM, Andrew Mumford <a_mumf...@mac.com> wrote: > Well do we agree that there is no more data in a log encoded half float > exr vs a normally encoded linear exr ? > > I thought that was a point you made Randy or did I misunderstand. > > And as to making "assumptions" about clients expertise or lack of re color > pipelines my experience of late and to a large extent for the last 30 or so > years tells me that not only do the "clients", to the extent that you can > think of them as one person of one mind, not only do they not know what > they are talking about to any great degree - but that they rely on us to > speak up when they are wrong. > > I owned a Ford Escort turbo at one time and I was very "satisfied" with > that at the time - now I know a bit more, I think it's ok to try and bring > the clients along for the journey so things can become better optimized for > all of us. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 29, 2017, at 16:23, Randy Little <randyslit...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yup Howard is 100% on target with his comment. > > Randy S. Little > http://www.rslittle.com/ > http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/ > > > > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 7:06 PM, Howard Jones <how...@axis-vfx.com> wrote: > >> But you are making a series of assumptions about their post pipeline. It >> doesn't stop with us, it stops at delivery. >> >> And it's an assumption that the client doesn't know what they are talking >> about or haven't tested and been satisfied with the colour pipe they are >> going down. >> >> IMHO it's about fitting in with a larger post production pipe than just >> the VFX. >> >> Howard >> >> On 29 Mar 2017, at 5:40 pm, Andrew Mumford <a_mumf...@mac.com> wrote: >> >> IMNSHO this is how "we" got into this goddamn cluster with color in >> general in the brave new world of digital color ... by just letting clients >> have whatever they want just because they ask for it and we as an industry, >> fall over the apple cart trying not to upset anyone and break the cart >> anyway. >> >> If they must have it then they get it but at least tell them that "to my >> best knowledge" this will lose some information and send them both dpx & >> "client" exr & "linear" extra for one shot with overbrights and darks and >> ask them to verify that's what they want. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 23, 2017, at 20:46, J Bills <djbi...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> Agreed. If they want it, that's what they get! Nothing wrong with >> diplomatically flagging it as "not what we usually do" and sending a test >> frame to ask if it's what they were expecting before you run the whole lot. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* nuke-users-boun...@support.thefoundry.co.uk < >> nuke-users-boun...@support.thefoundry.co.uk> on behalf of Howard Jones < >> how...@axis-vfx.com> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:35 AM >> *To:* Nuke user discussion >> *Subject:* Re: [Nuke-users] Ext with log color space >> >> Assuming they haven't made a mistake I would give them what they asked >> for. >> >> For one show I'm delivering linear DPX. >> >> Howard >> >> > On 20 Mar 2017, at 8:13 pm, chris <ze.m...@gmx.net> wrote: >> > >> >> On 3/20/17 at 8:48 PM, dekekinc...@gmail.com (Deke Kincaid) wrote: >> >> Many facilities deliver EXR files with DI mattes. This is quite common >> >> these days especially since Baselight and other DI products now >> properly >> >> read multi channel exr files. >> > >> > ah, good to know this gets more common. usually I had to deliver masks >> as extra sequences which got a bit messy. >> > now the question is, do we render those masks with log encoding ;) >> > >> > chris >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Nuke-users mailing list >> > Nuke-users@support.thefoundry.co.uk, http://forums.thefoundry.co.uk/ >> <http://forums.thefoundry.co.uk/> >> The Foundry Community :: Forum <http://forums.thefoundry.co.uk/> >> forums.thefoundry.co.uk >> Marketplace Forum for individual sales of goods and services related to >> Foundry products. 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