Travis Oliphant wrote: >> 3) Inclusion of an nd-array type in the standard lib! >> (or at the very least, an nd-array protocol) >> > Work on an nd-array protocol to extend the buffer protocol is occurring > right now. It think this will be better in the end then a standard > nd-array type.
Well, yes, if you have to choose just one. I'd like to see both. > I think a multi-dimensional object array would at least be a nice step. Me too. n-d slicing is so handy. > There are enough differences between lists and 1-d arrays though, that > I'm not sure the accepted multi-dimensional object array would just be > the NumPy version. I guess the question is whether the goal is an n-d list or an n-d array. The key difference that I see is that numpy arrays are not re-sizable. But I have to wonder how practical it is to make an nd-array re-sizable, and, indeed, how that would work. I'm not sure what the n-d version of append() would be. Numpy provides three things that I think are key: 1) An n-d array data structure. These are very useful for lots of things where an multi-dimensional data structure just makes sense. For these cases, you need the object array type (class?), and n-d slicing. 2) array arithmetic: I'm a big fan of list comprehensions, but: A = [x * 2 for x in B] really is a LOT klunkier, and far less clear, than: A = 2 * B or even worse: A = [] for x in B: A.append(2*x) While array arithmetic is often seen primarily as a performance advantage (which, of course, it is) I also think it is a real boon to clear, error-free coding, and Python could use that. 3) A bunch of other really "mathy" or "scientific" functions: (looking in the numpy book here) polynomial functions set operations (hmm -- there is a Python set type) bessel functions smoothing windows fft llinalg etc. etc. These really do belong in numpy (scipy?), rather than the standard lib. However this turn out, thanks for keeping numpy in the py3k loop. -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer NOAA/OR&R/HAZMAT (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Numpy-discussion mailing list Numpy-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/numpy-discussion