On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 5:08 PM Niyas Sait <niyas.s...@linaro.org> wrote:
> > When you say "we could request access to new Volterra machines": how do > > you see that playing out? Who would provide them, and who would maintain > > them? Would they be available to the more general scientific python > > community? Who would pay the bill? > > Microsoft, Qualcomm, and Arm are very interested in native support for > Numpy and other scientific packages for Windows on Arm platform. > And we have contacts with them to start the relevant discussion if there > is interest to use those dev boxes (local or remote access) > or Azure VMs for CI/CD purposes. > Hi Niyas, I'd be interested in remote access to a development machine. This will help with NumPy and SciPy; and it would allow testing binaries resulting from a cross-compilation step. I don't have a preference for a Volterra box or an Azure VM - as long as it can be used for development purposes the details of getting access are not that important I'd say. > > Hope that answers your questions. > > Niyas > > > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 at 14:51, Matti Picus <matti.pi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> When you say "we could request access to new Volterra machines": how do >> you see that playing out? Who would provide them, and who would maintain >> them? Would they be available to the more general scientific python >> community? Who would pay the bill? If the people supporting this niche >> platform stop doing so, can we drop the wheels? CPython has PEP 11 [0], >> maybe this effort should start by writing a similar NEP for the >> scientific python community. >> >> Matti >> >> >> [0] https://peps.python.org/pep-0011 >> >> >> On 6/6/22 13:35, Niyas Sait wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > It has been a while since we discussed adding CI/CD support for >> > Windows on Arm. Let me share a few updates and see if we can find a >> > way forward. >> > >> > First of all, Thanks for suggesting cibuildwheel. We have couple of >> > patches in progress to add native [1] and cross-compilation support >> > [2] to cibuildwheel. They could solve the binary wheel creation and >> > releases. However, we may still lack support for CI. >> > >> > I would like to check if there is any interest in using Windows/Arm64 >> > VMs in Azure [3] or Volterra machines ( new Windows/Arm64 Dev Boxes ) >> > [4] to add CI support for WoA platform. >> > >> > In order to use Azure VMs with GitHub Actions or Azure Pipeline, we >> > must set up self-hosted runners. I am not sure if that would be an >> > acceptable workflow for the numpy community. If that could work we >> > could potentially find ways to fund the required VMs for NumPy project. >> > I don't think integration in the main NumPy CI is an option right now, however I also don't think it is necessary. A standalone daily or weekly scheduled job that would notify interested devs should already be very helpful. Cheers, Ralf > > >> > Also, we could request access to new Volterra machines for Numpy >> > CI/CD. I know it is not easy to maintain them as part of CI/CD >> > workflow, but if any maintainers are interested in using them for >> > CI/CD purposes, we can progress on that discussion. >> > >> > Let me know what you think. >> > >> > Thanks >> > Niyas >> > >> > [1] https://github.com/pypa/cibuildwheel/pull/920 >> > [2] https://github.com/pypa/cibuildwheel/pull/1108 >> > [3] >> > >> https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/now-in-preview-azure-virtual-machines-with-ampere-altra-armbased-processors/ >> > [4] >> > >> https://blogs.windows.com/windowsdeveloper/2022/05/24/create-next-generation-experiences-at-scale-with-windows/ >> _______________________________________________ >> NumPy-Discussion mailing list -- numpy-discussion@python.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to numpy-discussion-le...@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/numpy-discussion.python.org/ >> Member address: niyas.s...@linaro.org >> > _______________________________________________ > NumPy-Discussion mailing list -- numpy-discussion@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to numpy-discussion-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/numpy-discussion.python.org/ > Member address: ralf.gomm...@googlemail.com >
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